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2014-10-25 23:51 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

>
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:07 PM, And Rosta <and.rosta@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> But if Lojban syllabification is essentially CV (or simplex onset +
>> simplex nucleus), give or take any complications with glides, why bother
>> with a bunch of morphophonological constraints? Is it just because they =
are
>> codified in CLL (albeit in erroneously phonological terms) and therefore
>> cannotbe abandoned?  Would abandoning morphophonological constraints
>> invalidate existing words or text?
>>
>
> Abandoning the constraints against double consonants, voiced-unvoiced
> clusters, sibilant-sibilant clusters, x-c/k clusters and mz would not
> invalidate anything, as far as I can tell.
>
For them an autocorrection might be implemented in parsers that would
automatically insert {y} between them.


> The distinction between valid and invalid "onsets" is mostly what is
> needed to delimit words.
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2014-10-25 23:51 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span class=3D"">On=
 Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:07 PM, And Rosta <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:and.rosta@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">and.rosta@gmail.com</a>&gt;</s=
pan> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex=
;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
But if Lojban syllabification is essentially CV (or simplex onset + simplex=
 nucleus), give or take any complications with glides, why bother with a bu=
nch of morphophonological constraints? Is it just because they are codified=
 in CLL (albeit in erroneously phonological terms) and therefore cannotbe a=
bandoned?=C2=A0 Would abandoning morphophonological constraints invalidate =
existing words or text?<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Abandoni=
ng the constraints against double consonants, voiced-unvoiced clusters, sib=
ilant-sibilant clusters, x-c/k clusters and mz would not invalidate anythin=
g, as far as I can tell.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>For them =
an autocorrection might be implemented in parsers that would automatically =
insert {y} between them.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div> The distinction between valid and invalid &quot;onsets&quot; is mostly=
 what is needed to delimit words.</div><span class=3D""><div><br></div><div=
>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes=C2=A0</div><div>=C2=A0</div></span></div></div></=
div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">

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