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Alex Burka scripsit:

> By my reading, camxes won't allow a nucleus to follow a vowel/diphthong
> under any circumstances, so *{koreas} is not allowed, even as a zifcme
> (and I agree it's naljbo).

Good. At one time, the fu'ivla for "Korean language" was "bangrkore,a".

> > Violates rule 4. Consonantal syllables suck, but I think we are
> > stuck with them.
> 
> Sorry, what's rule 4? I'm guessing it has to do with backwards
> compatibility?

See my previous posting.   Rule 4 for fu'ivla in CLL Section 4.7 says
that "y" is forbidden in fu'ivla, so "bangrkore'a" can't be changed to
"bangyrkore'a".  In practice, it wouldn't be a problem to pronounce
the former like the latter.

Indeed, if that was the *only* kind of "y" in fu'ivla (that is, allowing
the syllable types Cyl, Cym, Cyn, Cyr), I could live with it.

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