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Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:

> Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit:
>
> > The vocalic syllables consist of all possible combinations of
> > (morphological) onset-nucleus-coda.
>
> This is not quite true.  In particular, "y" can only occur in lujvo (and
> cmevla), and in lujvo at least such syllables can only have the form Cy,
> no clusters, no coda.  That cuts back the count of syllables from 25,020
> (counting "." and "'" as different) to 139*9*18 + 17*1*1 =3D 23,786 vocal=
ic
> syllables.


True, but camxes allows CCCyC syllables in lojbanic cmevla, so I counted
them as valid syllables.

Also CCy and CCCy can appear in fu'ivla rafsi.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM, John Cowan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:cowan@mercury.ccil.org" target=3D"_blank">cowan@mercury.ccil.o=
rg</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jorge Llamb=C3=
=ADas scripsit:<br>
<span class=3D""><br></span><span class=3D"">&gt; The vocalic syllables con=
sist of all possible combinations of<br>
&gt; (morphological) onset-nucleus-coda.<br>
<br>
</span>This is not quite true.=C2=A0 In particular, &quot;y&quot; can only =
occur in lujvo (and<br>
cmevla), and in lujvo at least such syllables can only have the form Cy,<br=
>
no clusters, no coda.=C2=A0 That cuts back the count of syllables from 25,0=
20<br>
(counting &quot;.&quot; and &quot;&#39;&quot; as different) to 139*9*18 + 1=
7*1*1 =3D 23,786 vocalic<br>
syllables.=C2=A0</blockquote><div><br></div><div>True, but camxes allows CC=
CyC syllables in lojbanic cmevla, so I counted them as valid syllables.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Also CCy and CCCy can appear in fu&#39;ivla rafsi.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div><=
/div></div></div>

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