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Subject: Re: [bpfk] camxes and syllabification in zi'evla
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On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 2:54 AM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:

>  Rule 4 for fu'ivla in CLL Section 4.7 says
> that "y" is forbidden in fu'ivla, so "bangrkore'a" can't be changed to
> "bangyrkore'a".  In practice, it wouldn't be a problem to pronounce
> the former like the latter.
>
> Indeed, if that was the *only* kind of "y" in fu'ivla (that is, allowing
> the syllable types Cyl, Cym, Cyn, Cyr), I could live with it.


That was the idea, yes. In fact only Cyr and Cyn. The -l- hyphen would now
never be needed, since the final consonant of the rafsi becomes irrelevant
for the choice of hyphen and so -yr- works for all cases except when the
fu'ivla proper begins with r.

Type-3 fu'ivla become thus something like pseudo-lujvo, which is what they
are anyway.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 2:54 AM, John Cowan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:cowan@mercury.ccil.org" target=3D"_blank">cowan@mercury.ccil.org</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=C2=A0Rule 4 for fu&#=
39;ivla in CLL Section 4.7 says<br>
that &quot;y&quot; is forbidden in fu&#39;ivla, so &quot;bangrkore&#39;a&qu=
ot; can&#39;t be changed to<br>
&quot;bangyrkore&#39;a&quot;.=C2=A0 In practice, it wouldn&#39;t be a probl=
em to pronounce<br>
the former like the latter.<br>
<br>
Indeed, if that was the *only* kind of &quot;y&quot; in fu&#39;ivla (that i=
s, allowing<br>
the syllable types Cyl, Cym, Cyn, Cyr), I could live with it.</blockquote><=
div><br></div><div>That was the idea, yes. In fact only Cyr and Cyn. The -l=
- hyphen would now never be needed, since the final consonant of the rafsi =
becomes irrelevant for the choice of hyphen and so -yr- works for all cases=
 except when the fu&#39;ivla proper begins with r.=C2=A0</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Type-3 fu&#39;ivla become thus something like pseudo-lujvo, which is=
 what they are anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</d=
iv><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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