Received: from mail-wi0-f184.google.com ([209.85.212.184]:42818) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Xpgmk-0001CU-D9; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:20 -0800 Received: by mail-wi0-f184.google.com with SMTP id ho1sf239658wib.11 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=u+yD4Ie6Vmb4QxJLWa59Jatd9SAYTW5506GXn5/Ev28=; b=YP8ioWlBBQABAcOE2K+CuV8LbHUXxFu/t/R6VAUD/6i6cZjNRinCnLs/3UicvpjgzP v013WB0g3jMDgLml79+HIEkk+mJLTAweXsD+mNOFCOWbC11x9Oitr+n8mTXrCcb2d4hg v6m8H5Syad/PZrOctPz/Yu/yu7KeqyZeYpJ7QZ7Ski2aS7UkBWChZnPGxnhj+u5L/BPa RTCJKOCL+/9TvYi8tIoTsShhWQwtuGHFdQOu8zGC4UIlGQ1mBpon58QCxh7d/lwbxEUh lCP23YbNlqjYvab4OwpxmivEKOj59VIGbqjHJWW1YypawjA0AYMmJZffHp4/3X317sKg HusQ== X-Received: by 10.180.211.239 with SMTP id nf15mr70188wic.0.1416071111392; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:11 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.106.100 with SMTP id gt4ls516525wib.5.canary; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:11 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.181.27.135 with SMTP id jg7mr2372255wid.5.1416071111027; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x236.google.com (mail-lb0-x236.google.com. [2a00:1450:4010:c04::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jj5si144674lbc.0.2014.11.15.09.05.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::236; Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id f15so15707394lbj.13 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.120.73 with SMTP id la9mr14813117lab.23.1416071110889; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.70.111 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Nov 2014 09:05:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0ECDA8252DB74B6A924A302A02D55629@gmail.com> <2B42884AD9984C369994567E68611980@gmail.com> <5676AB4A25B640DEB6EE877F655D9D77@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:05:10 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] extended rafsi and a tosmabru/slinku'i boondoggle From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011766e58a98460507e8bfa5 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e011766e58a98460507e8bfa5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > > > hy-rafsi =3D (long-rafsi vowel / CCV-rafsi / CVV-rafsi) h y h? > > > stressed-hy-rafsi =3D (long-rafsi stressed-vowel / stressed-CCV-rafsi / s= tressed-CVV-rafsi) h y h? > > > y-less-rafsi <- !y-rafsi !stressed-y-rafsi !hy-rafsi !stressed-hy-rafsi (= CVC-rafsi / CCV-rafsi / CVV-rafsi) !h !any-extended-rafsi > > > rafsi-string <- y-less-rafsi* (gismu / CVV-final-rafsi / stressed-y-less-= rafsi short-final-rafsi / y-rafsi / stressed-y-rafsi / stressed-y-less-rafs= i? initial-pair y / hy-rafsi / stressed-hy-rafsi) > > > I found this nice page where I can check a PEG myself without having to > write a parser: http://pegjs.majda.cz/online and these changes do seem to > finally fix the problem. > But not quite. The sporte'y cases are fixed, but "slinku'i'yske" slips by for some reason. "slinku'i'ysaske", "slinkau'yske", "sku'iske" are all successfully blocked, so the problem seems to be with some slinku'i that end in CV'V with final stress. I'll have to keep investigating. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --089e011766e58a98460507e8bfa5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@g= mail.com> wrote:

hy-rafsi =3D (long-rafsi vowel / C=
CV-rafsi / CVV-rafsi) h y h?

stressed-hy-rafsi =3D (long-rafsi stressed-vowel / =
stressed-CCV-rafsi / stressed-CVV-rafsi) h y h?

y-le=
ss-rafsi <- !y-rafsi !stressed-y-rafsi !hy-rafsi !stressed-hy-rafsi (CVC=
-rafsi / CCV-rafsi / CVV-rafsi) !h !any-extended-rafsi

rafs=
i-string <- y-less-rafsi* (gismu / CVV-final-rafsi / stressed-y-less-raf=
si short-final-rafsi / y-rafsi / stressed-y-rafsi / stressed-y-less-rafsi? =
initial-pair y / hy-rafsi / stressed-hy-rafsi)

I found this nice page where I can check a = PEG myself without having to write a parser: http://pegjs.majda.cz/online and these cha= nges do seem to finally fix the problem.

But not quite. The sporte'y cases are fixed, but = "slinku'i'yske" slips by for some reason. "slinku= 9;i'ysaske", "slinkau'yske", "sku'iske"= ; are all successfully blocked, so the problem seems to be with some slinku= 'i that end in CV'V with final stress. I'll have to keep invest= igating.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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