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Subject: Re: [bpfk] extended rafsi and a tosmabru/slinku'i boondoggle
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:32 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:

> Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit:
>
> > The rule for fu'ivla rafsi is also simple in principle: drop the final
> > vowel and replace it with y (just as with gismu),
>
> Such fu'ivla rafsi are irredeemably ambiguous anyway, since there is no
> constraint against having two fu'ivla that differ only in the final vowel=
.
>

True. In practice we don't seem to have many fu'ivla that differ only in
the final vowel, but in principle these rafsi are ambiguous. CLL mentions
CCVVCV as a fu'ivla form that could have this type of rafsi. Other obvious
forms are any fu'ivla that begins with a vowel and ends in CV (such as
".esporte") or any fu'ivla containing a consonantal syllable and ending in
CV, which includes all the type-3 that end in CV.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:32 PM, John Cowan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:cowan@mercury.ccil.org" target=3D"_blank">cowan@mercury.ccil.o=
rg</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jorge Llamb=C3=
=ADas scripsit:<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; The rule for fu&#39;ivla rafsi is also simple in principle: drop the f=
inal<br>
&gt; vowel and replace it with y (just as with gismu),<br>
<br>
</span>Such fu&#39;ivla rafsi are irredeemably ambiguous anyway, since ther=
e is no<br>
constraint against having two fu&#39;ivla that differ only in the final vow=
el.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True. In practice we don&#39;t seem=
 to have many fu&#39;ivla that differ only in the final vowel, but in princ=
iple these rafsi are ambiguous. CLL mentions CCVVCV as a fu&#39;ivla form t=
hat could have this type of rafsi. Other obvious forms are any fu&#39;ivla =
that begins with a vowel and ends in CV (such as &quot;.esporte&quot;) or a=
ny fu&#39;ivla containing a consonantal syllable and ending in CV, which in=
cludes all the type-3 that end in CV.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&=
#39;e xorxes</div><div>=C2=A0=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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