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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::242]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p14si539129wie.1.2014.11.16.22.25.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::242 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::242; Received: by mail-wi0-f194.google.com with SMTP id l15so3003009wiw.1 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:25:40 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.235.135 with SMTP id um7mr36616155wjc.1.1416205540753; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.103.65 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Nov 2014 22:25:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20141116202004.GK13604@mercury.ccil.org> References: <2B42884AD9984C369994567E68611980@gmail.com> <5676AB4A25B640DEB6EE877F655D9D77@gmail.com> <5467EDB6.6010304@gmx.de> <20141116202004.GK13604@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 09:25:40 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] extended rafsi and a tosmabru/slinku'i boondoggle From: Gleki Arxokuna To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::242 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01419f9a2f874e0508080caa X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e01419f9a2f874e0508080caa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-11-16 23:20 GMT+03:00 John Cowan : > Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit: > > > Well, if we throw away rafsi but keep the look-and-feel of brivla, we c= an > > replace the current 35 rules that deal with brivla with just a single > one: > > Of course, that puts us back before the 1983 GMR, the purpose of which > was to reduce the number of colliding lujvo. It's still possible to > have semantic collisions between lujvo coined by different people to mean > different things, but at least they are all decomposable in the same way. > btw, my question was not about throwing away rafsi but instead to get an easy way of determining whether a given word is a valid one. Determining which class it belongs to is another question that is solved by the full peg now. 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2014-11-16 23:20 GMT+03:00 John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org= >:
Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit= :

> Well, if we throw away rafsi but keep the look-and-feel of brivla, we = can
> replace the current 35 rules that deal with brivla with just a single = one:

Of course, that puts us back before the 1983 GMR, the purpose of whi= ch
was to reduce the number of colliding lujvo.=C2=A0 It's still possible = to
have semantic collisions between lujvo coined by different people to mean different things, but at least they are all decomposable in the same way.

btw, my question was not about throwing = away rafsi but instead to get an easy way of determining whether a given wo= rd is a valid one.

Determining which class it belo= ngs to is another question that is solved by the full peg now.
My question was "can an ordinary human without a computer= detect a word as being valid/invalid?" if yes then what would be '= ;eir steps to determine that.


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