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i mi si'unai mo'u tolcri ki'ecu'i la alis
I found myself, no thanks to Alice.

{ki'enai} wont be appropriate imo, although imo in some situations "no
thanks to you" can mean {ki'enai}

"It's no thanks to you that I arrive on time"
Here, it could mean that the other person's actions might even have
resulted in the person arriving late, but despite those actions, the person
still managed to arrive on time.

However, the phrase "Isn't "resentment"/"bitterness" the polar opposite of
thanks/gratitude?
" on http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Vocatives

makes sense.
For now, I voted against this page.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">In=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>i mi si&#39;unai mo&#39;u tolc=
ri ki&#39;ecu&#39;i la alis</div><div>I found myself, no thanks to Alice.<b=
r></div><div><br></div><div>{ki&#39;enai} wont be appropriate imo, although=
 imo in some situations &quot;no thanks to you&quot; can mean {ki&#39;enai}=
</div><div><br></div><div><div>&quot;It&#39;s no thanks to you that I arriv=
e on time&quot;</div><div>Here,=C2=A0it could mean that the other person&#3=
9;s actions might even have resulted in the person arriving late, but despi=
te those actions, the person still managed to arrive on time.</div></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>However, the phrase &quot;Isn&#39;t &quot;resentment&quot=
;/&quot;bitterness&quot; the polar opposite of thanks/gratitude?</div><div>=
&quot; on=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Vocati=
ves">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Vocatives</a><br><br>makes =
sense.</div><div>For now, I voted against this page.</div></div>

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