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On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com> wrote:

> Er, how is this not redundant to {.ei}? {.ei mi cliva} is what I've always
> said for that example.
>

They are similar, yes. The main difference is that with ".e'i" the speaker
is the source of authority, whereas with ".ei" it's just how the speaker
feels things ought to be. With first person actions the difference can be
very subtle, but with second or third person it's more clear: "ei" is "this
ought to happen", whereas ".e'i" is "let this happen, make this happen".
"ei gusni" "there ought to be light (but there's nothing I can do about
it)" "e'i gusni" "let there be light (I command that it be so)".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Alex Burka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:durka42@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">durka42@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div>Er, how is this not redundant to {.ei}? {.ei mi cliva}=
 is what I&#39;ve always said for that example.</div></blockquote><div><br>=
</div><div>They are similar, yes. The main difference is that with &quot;.e=
&#39;i&quot; the speaker is the source of authority, whereas with &quot;.ei=
&quot; it&#39;s just how the speaker feels things ought to be. With first p=
erson actions the difference can be very subtle, but with second or third p=
erson it&#39;s more clear: &quot;ei&quot; is &quot;this ought to happen&quo=
t;, whereas &quot;.e&#39;i&quot; is &quot;let this happen, make this happen=
&quot;. &quot;ei gusni&quot; &quot;there ought to be light (but there&#39;s=
 nothing I can do about it)&quot; &quot;e&#39;i gusni&quot; &quot;let there=
 be light (I command that it be so)&quot;.</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;=
o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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