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On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> I'm not sure every COI or UI has a single word/construct in English
> apropariate in all contexts. For ki'enai:
>
> mi jai lerci ki'enai la kevin - I'm late and that's because of you,
> bastard Kevin.
>

That sounds like a vocative for blame? In this case Kevin seems to be made
responsible for "mi jai lerci". In the previous example they were accused
of trying to prevent something (good) from happening, rather than making
something (bad) happen.

So attached to something good, "ki'e nai" would mean "you tried to prevent
it but it happened anyway, ha ha", whereas attached to something bad it
would mean "it's all your fault"?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 6:51 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.=
name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span cl=
ass=3D""><div><br></div></span><div>I&#39;m not sure every COI or UI has a =
single word/construct in English apropariate in all contexts. For ki&#39;en=
ai:</div><div><br></div><div>mi jai lerci ki&#39;enai la kevin - I&#39;m la=
te and that&#39;s because of you, bastard Kevin.</div></div></div></div></b=
lockquote><div><br></div><div>That sounds like a vocative for blame? In thi=
s case Kevin seems to be made responsible for &quot;mi jai lerci&quot;. In =
the previous example they were accused of trying to prevent something (good=
) from happening, rather than making something (bad) happen.=C2=A0</div><di=
v><br></div><div>So attached to something good, &quot;ki&#39;e nai&quot; wo=
uld mean &quot;you tried to prevent it but it happened anyway, ha ha&quot;,=
 whereas attached to something bad it would mean &quot;it&#39;s all your fa=
ult&quot;?</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br>=
</div></div></div></div>

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