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It seems acceptable for a one-word gloss. You aren't going to get the best translation in one word. Do you have a better gloss? 


On Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:

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> 
> 2014-12-04 17:34 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka <aburka@seas.upenn.edu (mailto:aburka@seas.upenn.edu)>:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, December 4, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> > 
> > > po is often used for the standard sense of possession, i.e. physical or legal ownership. It is essentially equivalent to poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a vau fa.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > {fa}? How can it be "equivalent"? Anyway why is it glossed as "specific to" which hints at {steci}?
> > As in {ko'a po ko'e} == {ko'a poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a vau fa ko'e} == {ko'a poi ko'e traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a}. 
> > 
> 
> 
> How can you comment on such gloss as "specific"?
> > > 
> > > po'e is used for things like people's limbs or parental relationships or other inalienable things. It is essentially equivalent to poi jinzi ke se steci srana.
> > > 
> > > This tanru should be replaced with some no-tanru definition like xorxe's {poi ke'a se jinzi le ka ce'u se steci le ka ce'u srana}.
> > ie .i va'o lo nu no da pante kei mi baza stika 
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                <div>It seems acceptable for a one-word gloss. You aren't g=
oing to get the best translation in one word. Do you have a better gloss?
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                <p style=3D"color: #A0A0A8;">On Thursday, December 4, 2014 =
at 10:56 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:</p>
                <blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"border-left-style:solid;=
border-width:1px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;">
                    <span><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div><br><div>2014=
-12-04 17:34 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
burka@seas.upenn.edu" target=3D"_blank">aburka@seas.upenn.edu</a>&gt;</span=
>:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span>
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                <p style=3D"color:#a0a0a8">On Thursday, December 4, 2014 at=
 8:54 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:</p><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
                    <span><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><b>po is oft=
en used for the standard sense of possession, i.e. physical or legal owners=
hip. It is essentially equivalent to poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a vau fa=
.</b></div></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>{fa}? How can it be "equivalent=
"? Anyway why is it glossed as "specific to" which hints at {steci}?</div><=
/div></div></div></span></div></blockquote></span><div>As in {ko'a <i>po</i=
> ko'e} =3D=3D {ko'a <i>poi traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a vau fa</i> ko'e} =
=3D=3D {ko'a poi ko'e traji lo ka ce'u ckini ke'a}.&nbsp;</div></div></bloc=
kquote><div><br></div><div>How can you comment on such gloss as "specific"?=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><=
span><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><div><b>po'e is used for thi=
ngs like people's limbs or parental relationships or other inalienable thin=
gs. It is essentially equivalent to poi jinzi ke se steci srana.</b></div><=
div><br></div><div>This tanru should be replaced with some no-tanru definit=
ion like xorxe's {poi ke'a se jinzi le ka ce'u se steci le ka ce'u srana}.<=
/div></div></div></div></span></div></blockquote></span><div>ie .i va'o lo =
nu no da pante kei mi baza stika&nbsp;</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<span><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div></div><span><font color=3D"=
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