Received: from mail-ig0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:36939) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0H8p-0001Ej-4L; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:54 -0800 Received: by mail-ig0-f189.google.com with SMTP id h15sf792532igd.16 for ; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent:sender :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=kKQsuCp15X+q9Syi4vNQAL77lnXD5MYbC0yEiOig6VU=; b=GPCG0Yz77YtERzI16K+GhmVPohWdlTGBI8CAaLYK5qkJQDjrVKOUmTkMfw8WftS1oq JhMbL0T5KWx6pldeFcw/jX8Kw5K7xD/ZMV04Wd7Brk/w8Mp9erujHdWWdLXIiDlm5Zcr EjAzZwiZB4ucIS4HEpk0XTbeYm00RVoDxLLPVaQbvLGEZplnPCMqNndotVbuiQb2OBpb oeF0nJt2Q1vECwGqHRMdtEjw6KgD3J/3vOd5xpyKwYoMtUxJkG+JNvuWUjufoOB0DfKg ZIJk0HGVLin1bP31Qstv1Yoy1uVfa4fH0jyJ9tuMQXBzp+5CBTXDhTAyziLD4vqONKa9 gIXg== X-Received: by 10.140.23.70 with SMTP id 64mr446942qgo.1.1418594144919; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:44 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.39.52 with SMTP id u49ls2435299qgu.71.gmail; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:44 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.23.230 with SMTP id v66mr23213582yhv.42.1418594144775; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth.ccil.org (earth.ccil.org. [192.190.237.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n9si618398igb.2.2014.12.14.13.55.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.190.237.11; Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Y0H8g-0000ZN-50 for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:55:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:55:42 -0500 From: John Cowan To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form Message-ID: <20141214215542.GF29313@mercury.ccil.org> References: <548AC3CB.7090403@gmx.de> <580B9AB84B34485AB4139B921C46CF42@gmail.com> <3ED463A548E74A53BD8F2ECEF0C620F8@gmail.com> <14FDADF47D7841A39D612894E81CC89B@gmail.com> <548E0394.8080204@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <548E0394.8080204@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Robert LeChevalier scripsit: > I have not been following this discussion, and defer to Cowan if he > disagrees with anything I say, but my recollection is that we > permitted "glides" to be WRITTEN in fu'ivla, but that they were > considered to the equivalent of the same string with a close-comma > between the two letters, so that tuitsku would be the same word as > tu,itsku That's true. But the trouble with tu,itsku is that it can't be well distinguished from tu,uitsku. In short, my view is that fu'ivla should allow the same combinations, and only the same combinations, as lujvo, with the addition (though I don't like them much) of the syllabic consonants. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Values of beeta will give rise to dom! (5th/6th edition 'mv' said this if you tried to rename '.' or '..' entries; see http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/odd.html) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.