Received: from mail-wg0-f58.google.com ([74.125.82.58]:38103) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P9U-00022o-Fi; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:53:23 -0800 Received: by mail-wg0-f58.google.com with SMTP id b13sf214367wgh.3; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:53:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent:sender:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=AXVrUTb07mKNGcqYkAKqO94ntBMLzesG1b7Rq/lPeuI=; b=vM9OjanCkShOXTrDnDRfCqruOSIFIIU1Mag0gv4qtlh2yGbDBxy/3aoEBBEgO4h7cy CgdvzfAaok9wdZrKTH4LlXKwlnTf7PdtEtqpjBMI0vts2niJ8e17TqwNIf3QZFf7KKXa q4q2E2dyAQoeEwaUlkZBLqA6d+2Oze6exUvdfGvUiW8aFAPG3FB1QcdZV97bXW4OOobt 3Ik3BCZgKpyreUCIKav3Fs/PM0nkAs4WdzJNo71hx8PIBvlIkQwL+cCsPcr0aP5VaUSf QU1sFhfU2ULp2KYt2SOzsF09e727c1QPARU8DlIlZvGdHqrUX4atQazpKLEpw1FW3zpu Ne5g== X-Received: by 10.152.21.38 with SMTP id s6mr58lae.7.1419101593327; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:53:13 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.29.98 with SMTP id j2ls1312256lah.103.gmail; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:53:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.7.99 with SMTP id i3mr5674laa.9.1419101592774; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from earth.ccil.org (earth.ccil.org. [192.190.237.11]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m5si332616wiz.2.2014.12.20.10.53.12 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Dec 2014 10:53:12 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.190.237.11; Received: from cowan by earth.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Y2P9L-0002q1-Bg for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:53:11 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2014 13:53:11 -0500 From: John Cowan To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form Message-ID: <20141220185311.GF22447@mercury.ccil.org> References: <5660b66f-68e1-4e9c-b4ce-1713a7bf1491@googlegroups.com> <7317B43184D74BC1B4767AA54F8988EA@gmail.com> <20141220161147.GD22447@mercury.ccil.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: cowan@ccil.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of cowan@ccil.org designates 192.190.237.11 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=cowan@ccil.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit: > To me allowing "iibroda" while rejecting "iibro da" doesn't make a lot of > sense. It shouldn't be a matter of word class, we either allow the syllab= le > "ii" or we don't. Also, if "ii" is an attitudinal, "ii'a" could be one as > well. I agree that neither "iibroda" nor "iibro da" makes sense. I continue to believe that ".ii" and ".uu" should be treated as anomalous cmavo (in the same way that "zkzkzkkzkzt" is an anomalous cmevla), and that "ii" and "uu" should be disallowed otherwise. > If the words "ii" and "uu" are to be treated as complete anomalies, then > the camxes morphology may need to be rethought. It might then make sense = to > allow syllables without onsets, treat ia, ie, io, iu as bisyllabic, and > allow ae, ao, ea, eo, eu, oa, oe, ou as well. That's backward toward Loglan. We introduced /h/ precisely to escape from all that. --=20 John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org H=C3=ADggledy-p=C3=ACggledy / XML programmers Try to escape those / I-eighteen-N woes; Incontrovertibly / What we need more of is Unicode weenies and / Fran=C3=A7ois Yergeaus. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.