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2015-01-17 0:59 GMT+03:00 Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com>:
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Jorge Lla= mb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com= > wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Gleki Arxokuna
> <gleki.is.my.name@gma= il.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>=C2=A0 majmese
>
>
> zo'o mi ji'a na djuno lo du'u makaujmese
>
> mu'o mi'e xorxes

oops, {ma= dmese} as in the original {madjio}=C2=A0


On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Gleki Arxokuna
<gleki.is.my.name@gmail.co= m> wrote:
>
>
> 2015-01-16 16:47 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>:
>>
>> "madjio" is from Italian.
>
>
> And that's what I don't like. I suppose names should follow so= me system, not
> be arbitrarily taken from different languages within one set of words = (then
> why not Lojbanize Italian "gennaio" and so on?).

Most likely he used Italian simply because the Latin for "May" na= mely
"maius/maio-" is insufficiently crunchy for brivla.=C2=A0 IMO Lat= in would
be the right language to Lojbanize here. But, it seems impossible to
import the full Latin month names recognizably into fu'ivla space.=C2= =A0 So
maybe the suffix idea is the way to go...

janmese febmese marmese prilmese magmese junmese julmese
<= br>
ke'u, jun- and jul- are too close and can be easily mixed= together.

.augmese
sep(te)mese .ok(to)mese dekmese

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