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[2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d18si418062wiv.0.2015.01.17.23.37.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d; Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id q58so26491026wes.4 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:37:02 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.180.9.111 with SMTP id y15mr22080410wia.33.1421566622119; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:37:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.86.200 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Jan 2015 23:36:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20150117164920.GA14149@mercury.ccil.org> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:36:41 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Month Names (WAS: official cmavo form) To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c24888893d71050ce845f2 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "stodi.digitalkingdom.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: 2015-01-18 10:30 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka : > > On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > > 2015-01-18 6:51 GMT+03:00 Mike S. : > > I think you're mixing up brivla and cmevla here. {febvari} (or whatever > finally decided upon) would behave no differently than any other brivla. > It's true that the {pa} in {la pa .febru'ári'us.} is part of the name, > but we wouldn't need or use that construction. If I'm not mistaken, {pa > la .febru'ári'us.} could and would mean "one February" as expected. > > > I'm not mixing them. 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If I'm not mistaken, {pa > la .febru'=C3=A1ri'us.} could and would mean "one February" as expected. > > > I'm not mixing them. Yes, I was talking about {la pa .februari'us.} and i= t > doesnt work as {lo pa februari}. > > And {lo pa februari} makes perfect sense and can be used. > If you use a cmevla with {la} you lose this meaning. > > lo pa me la .febru'Ari'us. > clani dukse i ji'a lo cmene na sumti stura kakne pe'a > > Compare {lo se cmene be lu pa februari'us li'u} vs. {lo pa se cmene be zo > februari'us}. > > Sure, {lo pa [MONTH]} hasn't been used before a lot probably since we > rarely have talked about months extensively in Lojban. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BPFK" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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2015-01-18 10:30 GMT+03:00 Alex Burka <aburka@seas.upenn.edu&g= t;:

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On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 2= :17 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:


2015-01-= 18 6:51 GMT+03:00 Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com>:
<= div>I think you're mixing up brivla and cmevla here.=C2=A0 {febvari} (o= r whatever finally decided upon) would behave no differently than any other= brivla. It's true that the {pa} in {la pa .febru'=C3= =A1ri'us.} is part of the name, but we wouldn't need or use that co= nstruction.=C2=A0 If I'm not mistaken, {pa la= .febru'=C3=A1ri'us.} could and would mean "one February"= as expected.

I'm not mixing = them. Yes, I was talking about {la pa .februari'us.} and it doesnt work= as {lo pa februari}.

And {lo pa februari} makes p= erfect sense and can be used.
If you use a cmevla with {la} you l= ose this meaning.
lo= pa me la .febru'Ari'us.=C2=A0

clani dukse i ji'a lo cmene na sumti stura kakne pe'a
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= Compare {lo se cmene be lu pa februari'us li'u} vs. {lo pa se cmene= be zo februari'us}.

Sure, {lo pa [MONTH]} has= n't been used before a lot probably since we rarely have talked about m= onths extensively in Lojban.

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