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 Content preview:  The ma'oste defines {ju'o} as follows: "attitudinal modifier:
    certainty - uncertainty - impossibility." If {ju'o} is to express the certainty
    scale, then this definition is non-compositional. This is similar to the
   old {.ai nai} definition, which BPFK changed to a much more sensible one (replacing
    the useless {.ai nai} with a useful one that agrees with the scale the word
    is on). [...] 
 
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The ma'oste defines {ju'o} as follows:

     "attitudinal modifier: certainty - uncertainty - impossibility."

If {ju'o} is to express the certainty scale, then this definition is 
non-compositional. This is similar to the old {.ai nai} definition, 
which BPFK changed to a much more sensible one (replacing the useless 
{.ai nai} with a useful one that agrees with the scale the word is on).

In my opinion, the {ju'o} scale should be:

     "certainty - [mild certainty] - lack of certainty / uncertainty"

I checked the corpus and {ju'o nai} was rarely used at all, and 
occasionally used in the sense of current {ju'o cu'i}.

Just like old {.ainai} was completely redundant to {.ai na}, current 
{ju'o nai} is not much different (if at all) from {ju'o na}.

{ju'o nai} is currently a very rare word, whereas {ju'o cu'i} is 
extremely common, so its length is painful (this is an actual complaint 
by language users). With the proposed definition, we'd also get a 
slightly shorter replacement, so it would be killing two birds with one 
stone.

Any thoughts?

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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