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Subject: Re: [bpfk] selma'o ZEhEI and PEG
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Le jeudi 2 avril 2015 07:52:00 UTC+9, xorxes a =C3=A9crit :
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM, guskant <gusni...@gmail.com <javascript:>=
>=20
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  If you don't mind changing the order of words around {ze'ei}, we could=
=20
>> modify the definition of {ze'ei} of MAI so that the usage should be "X Y=
 bu=20
>> ze'ei". So the definition of {xo'e} will be as you said:=20
>>
>> pa zo'e bu ze'ei
>>
>
> Notice though that "pa zo'e bu" is a number, so "pa zo'e bu ze'ei" with=
=20
> "ze'ei" in MAI, would be a free modifier, not a digit.
>
> (I think PA and lerfu should not mix together to form=20
> numbers/lerfu-strings, but that's a different discussion.)
>
>
ua lu
pa boi zo'e bu ze'ei=20
li'u
drani  .ei=20

Other selma'o that couldn't be extended by this method, besides PA, would=
=20
> be ZO, LOhU, ZOI, ZEI, BY, BU, UI, tags, and maybe a few others. That's=
=20
> because free modifiers are not all that free.
>


ie
In order to apply {ze'ei} to those cmavo, keeping {zo'e bu ze'ei pa} form=
=20
seems better, permitting the difference between semantics and syntax.=20
Actually, {ze'ei} is used only for definitions of experimental cmavo, and=
=20
it means that {X bu ze'ei} cluster is always put at the beginning of=20
statement or fragment. Such {X bu ze'ei} cluster then can be naturally=20
regarded as covering the whole line of definition. I don't know if any=20
selma'o other than MAI can bring a better solution.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br>Le jeudi 2 avril 2015 07:52:00 UTC+9, xorxes a =C3=
=A9crit&nbsp;:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-l=
eft: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM, gu=
skant <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-o=
bfuscated-mailto=3D"foZANLv9LtkJ" rel=3D"nofollow" onmousedown=3D"this.href=
=3D'javascript:';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return =
true;">gusni...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><br></span><span><div>&nbsp;If you don't mind=
 changing the order of words around {ze'ei}, we could modify the definition=
 of {ze'ei} of MAI so that the usage should be "X Y bu ze'ei". So the defin=
ition of {xo'e} will be as you said:&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>pa zo'e=
 bu ze'ei</div></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Notice though =
that "pa zo'e bu" is a number, so "pa zo'e bu ze'ei" with "ze'ei" in MAI, w=
ould be a free modifier, not a digit.</div><div><br></div><div>(I think PA =
and lerfu should not mix together to form numbers/lerfu-strings, but that's=
 a different discussion.)</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div>ua lu</div><div>pa boi zo'e bu ze'ei&nbsp;</div><div>=
li'u</div><div>drani &nbsp;.ei&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #cc=
c solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div></div><div>Other selma'o that couldn't be extended by this method, b=
esides PA, would be ZO, LOhU, ZOI, ZEI, BY, BU, UI, tags, and maybe a few o=
thers. That's because free modifiers are not all that free.</div></div></di=
v></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>ie</div><div>In ord=
er to apply {ze'ei} to those cmavo, keeping {zo'e bu ze'ei pa} form seems b=
etter, permitting the difference between semantics and syntax. Actually, {z=
e'ei} is used only for definitions of experimental cmavo, and it means that=
 {X bu ze'ei} cluster is always put at the beginning of statement or fragme=
nt. Such {X bu ze'ei} cluster then can be naturally regarded as covering th=
e whole line of definition. I don't know if any selma'o other than MAI can =
bring a better solution.</div><div>&nbsp;</div></div>

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