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[2a00:1450:400c:c05::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bz6si136793wib.3.2015.04.03.09.50.52 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Apr 2015 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::229; Received: by mail-wi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id a2so145102474wia.0 for ; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.73.228 with SMTP id o4mr7163847wiv.74.1428079852092; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.240.197 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 09:50:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87a8631e-1155-4a74-a1c4-47c79a5fe96f@googlegroups.com> From: Gleki Arxokuna Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 19:50:31 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] selma'o ZEhEI and PEG To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043893cd4b81840512d4c063 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --f46d043893cd4b81840512d4c063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can we rewrite how {zei} works and postulate that the last part of words glued together with {zei} determines its grammar? Thus, {panpi zei coi} will become a vocative but {coi zei panpi} will be a brivla as well as {broda zei brode zei panpi}? This will eliminate at least one usage of {ze'ei}. I'm not sure what {coi zei coi} could mean as a brivla and what would it be its place structure. 2015-04-03 18:17 GMT+03:00 Gleki Arxokuna : > > > 2015-04-03 18:03 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : > >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < >> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> 2015-04-03 17:31 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : >>> >>>> >>>> .i lo valsi zei si cu snipa lo li'erla'i .e nai lo se li'erla'i .i la'= a >>>> .ei la'o gerna si_clause gerna cu se vasru la'oi gy pre_clause gy .e n= ai >>>> la'oi gy post_clause gy .i ku'i lo ca tcini cu dukti >>>> >>> >>> xu nabmi i ke'u lo cmavo enai lo se cmavo cu se jalge lo smuni >>> i seki'ubo da'i zo si mutce frica zo ze'ei poi cnino vau lo ka cupra >>> makau poi smuni >>> i ku'i gerna dunli >>> >> >> pe'i lo du'u lo gerna stura cu drani vajni si cu vajni >> >> (pe'i [lo {du'u <(=C2=B9lo [gerna stura] KU=C2=B9) (=C2=B9cu [drani {vaj= ni si}] VAU=C2=B9)> >> KEI} KU] [cu {vajni VAU}]) >> > > je'e > > >> pe'i lo du'u lo gerna stura cu drani vajni ze'ei cu vajni >> >> (pe'i [lo {du'u <(=C2=B9lo [gerna stura] KU=C2=B9) (=C2=B9cu [drani {vaj= ni ze'ei}] >> VAU=C2=B9)> KEI} KU] [cu {vajni VAU}]) >> >> xu do jinvi lo di'u gerna stura cu drani >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "BPFK" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. 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Can we rewrite how {zei} works and postulate that the last= part of words glued together with {zei} determines its grammar?
Thus, = {panpi zei coi} will become a vocative but {coi zei panpi} will be a brivla= as well as {broda zei brode zei panpi}?
This will eliminate at l= east one usage of {ze'ei}.

I'm not sure wh= at {coi zei coi} could mean as a brivla and what would it be its place stru= cture.

2015-04-03 18:17 GMT+03:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmai= l.com>:

2015-04-03 18:03 GMT+03:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com<= /a>>:


On Fri, Apr 3, = 2015 at 11:35 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
2015-04-03 17:31 GMT+0= 3:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

.i lo valsi zei si cu snipa lo li&= #39;erla'i .e nai lo se li'erla'i .i la'a .ei la'o gern= a si_clause gerna cu se vasru la'oi gy pre_clause gy .e nai la'oi g= y post_clause gy .i ku'i lo ca tcini cu dukti

xu nabmi i ke'u= lo cmavo enai lo se cmavo cu se jalge lo smuni
i seki'ubo da= 'i zo si mutce frica zo ze'ei poi cnino vau lo ka cupra makau poi s= muni
i ku'i gerna dunli

=C2=A0pe'i lo du'u lo gerna stura cu dran= i vajni si cu vajni=C2=A0

(pe'i [lo {du'u = <(=C2=B9lo [gerna stura] KU=C2=B9) (=C2=B9cu [drani {vajni si}] VAU=C2= =B9)> KEI} KU] [cu {vajni VAU}])=C2=A0

je'e=C2=A0


=C2=A0= pe'i lo du'u lo gerna stura cu drani vajni ze'ei cu vajni=C2=A0=

(pe'i [lo {du'u <(=C2=B9lo [gerna = stura] KU=C2=B9) (=C2=B9cu [drani {vajni ze'ei}] VAU=C2=B9)> KEI} KU= ] [cu {vajni VAU}])=C2=A0

xu do jinvi lo di= 9;u gerna stura cu drani

mu'o mi'e x= orxes

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