Received: from mail-qk0-f183.google.com ([209.85.220.183]:33442) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YeKzB-00083i-Ld; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:07:36 -0700 Received: by qkbx78 with SMTP id x78sf3879949qkb.0; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:07:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=44T7LzCF6gis7RE5sKF4KYd2euKTPSbyRTCgHLTdlM0=; b=FWO2d5lLbR4cSn6YA3fM6zxQ8diMl4Hwh5WO5FHGGWasXmvsgAz4Z+YXKr/yMy+sf5 RHZeX1S1IBmDL2YZHH6pdwjg7M/dPp1lYThsw8h3px926KfVTrpKStyx3jEHV10nSngP Ep4w/CXbrgYuVVpJa/WZQ2bC4HlgoULVK1qdSSji/DAOYbSu6ZSS+KYNsBRTtswQfDNc dP9GZYEiTkC4exViCKNSrUHkb5w9czlPC6ndo3caGCDeB0kUljn0gOe0cI96Vx/a5Onb S/bAwwtB9p5ZlkzCr2hkVpTKVNcNmI/GZHVEW67vIGuEmk9BTRFqB4NqedlroCBMjySR JW/g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=44T7LzCF6gis7RE5sKF4KYd2euKTPSbyRTCgHLTdlM0=; b=GrdLJ1T0uADLxmT0nHZW82/Y/n3xiQtRZDoWNGtwaA15rrqrcGF8dfTsfsN2W8POk/ DFp1xONV09yMqGuJFUskIYcGUgcoiApq0z6toNwrRbXHtuFQvxjpnJXjO/9iBSUI65pq PLLllWyBboPfuiXYeZJQWOL7inlzvP8bWic2s5EXcF1kXxuWXxOP5iR9U42EzZrnj8JL eD9CMfC8M4P7e6rK9PLAwYYLVGDEgQycd6zVA6QeDQ1qXV5T1J1LjJ6AuU+dbS4CcgXV BQ0+lVGEMZMFyObYRghQCy7etYb+gtOfQCO2rk7/H1Uvp48F6+dkV5q8TkorD8SR3utc CXaQ== X-Received: by 10.140.41.164 with SMTP id z33mr78235qgz.21.1428142042914; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:07:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.94.68 with SMTP id f62ls935676qge.20.gmail; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:07:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.91.47 with SMTP id y44mr76200qgd.39.1428142042770; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 03:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 03:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <98196130-d8cb-4f9c-a043-18d267c8c57d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [bpfk] Re: Postpositions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_1227_428761243.1428142042356" X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1227_428761243.1428142042356 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1228_1382575416.1428142042356" ------=_Part_1228_1382575416.1428142042356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:42:31 PM UTC+3, la gleki wrote: > > > https://github.com/Ilmen-vodhr/ilmentufa/compare/7268c9860c7c99aa44b157d1567bda26c8a7d80c...05a7193368eaeb9198f77533ae6f4ab3391fa4ad > > Here I implemented postpositions to the experimental grammar. > > {do ca fa prami mi co fe} = {fa do prami fe mi} = {do prami mi} > {i lo vanci co ca klama fa mi} = {i ca lo vanci cu klama fa mi} > > Justification: > > 1. It's afterthought. The same reason people prefer GIhEKs to GEKs. One > may first say {lo vanci} and only then think what sumtcita matches their > thought. > 2. Some languages like Japanese use postpositions. Some languages like > most SAE languages use case suffixes, not prefixes. This is what {ko'a co > FA} matches more closely. > Besides, "... ago" would be {copuza} since it's also a postposition. > I think, this addition doesn't add any new scoping opportunities to the > language ( I mean scoping of {da}, tags, some UI). > > Objections to the github changelog? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1228_1382575416.1428142042356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 12:42:31 PM UTC+3,= la gleki wrote:
h= ttps://github.com/Ilmen-vodhr/ilmentufa/compare/7268c9860c7c99aa4= 4b157d1567bda26c8a7d80c...05a7193368eaeb9198f77533ae6f4ab339= 1fa4ad

Here I implemented postpositions to the e= xperimental grammar.

{do ca fa prami mi co fe} =3D= {fa do prami fe mi} =3D {do prami mi}
{i lo vanci co ca klama fa= mi} =3D {i ca lo vanci cu klama fa mi}

Justificat= ion:

1. It's afterthought. The same reason people = prefer GIhEKs to GEKs. One may first say {lo vanci} and only then think wha= t sumtcita matches their thought.
2. Some languages like Japanese= use postpositions. Some languages like most SAE languages use case suffixe= s, not prefixes. This is what {ko'a co FA} matches more closely.

Besides, "... ago" would be {copuza} sinc= e it's also a postposition.



I thi= nk, this addition doesn't add any new scoping opportunities to the language= ( I mean scoping of {da}, tags, some UI).

Objecti= ons to the github changelog? 

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