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 Content preview:  But how will we deal with the loss of {selterselxeliumadbro}??
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    rule except for a handful that have been invalid for a while due to long
   syllable codas (ex. {postmo} and {artmozaiko}), so this is a much better list
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But how will we deal with the loss of {selterselxeliumadbro}?? zo'o

zo'onai, all of these look to be actually disqualified by the the glide rul=
e except for a handful that have been invalid for a while due to long sylla=
ble codas (ex. {postmo} and {artmozaiko}), so this is a much better list pe=
'i.

This spreadsheet=C2=A0shows the words invalidated by the CGV rule and two p=
ossible ways to automatically fix them: replacing {xua} with {xuua} (CVGV) =
or with {xu'a} (CV'V), discounting words where that doesn't help (because t=
he result is a tosmabru or a lujvo, for example). I am not saying we should=
 apply a blanket fix without looking through the words, but it's useful to =
have this list to look at.

mu'i mi'e durkavore

On April 19, 2015 at 12:13:51 PM, mukti (shunpiker@gmail.com) wrote:

After the change to "consonantal-syllable", there are now 328 (previously, =
416) impacted fu'ivla. There is no impact to other word types.

All of the fu'ivla that were specifically identified as being impacted by t=
he previous rule (badnrgrute, baknrzebu,=C2=A0catnrpepiskopo,=C2=A0cipnrpik=
a, gurnrtefi) are once again parsing as fu'ivla. The updated list of newly =
non-conforming fu'ivla reads:

abniena
alminiu
amnio
amniota
anmonia
artmozaiko
atkuila
bangrgogurio
bangrlietuva
bangrnaidjiria
bangrtalia
bangrturkie
bangrvietnama
bergamia
bianfu
biorka
bolrbliardo
bombiksia
braxiura
brevia
bruneleskia
campania
cibrfiorso
ciencia
cionmau
cipnrkanario
cipnrsagitariidai
cipnrsikonia
cipnrstrutio
cipnrxuazine
cirlnxiogluto
cirlrparmaregio
cistrxaioliano
cistrxioniano
ckabrceratonia
ckabrkacia
ckafruiski
ckankua
clevalua
cmavrui
cpirepiorni
cpirkasuari
crenzue
crimpui
dansrtuistu
debrceratonia
dianzi
djaguara
djanua
djekuole
djulio
djunio
e'urfausiace'a
enrio
ensiklopedia
eskua
februa
fiakre
fiesta
finprsinxnatfidai
finprsinxnatfinai
fiorso
fiprge'otria
fiprkaspiomizo
fiprlatimeria
fiprmia
fiprmordacia
fiprpoliodo
fortepiano
frangia
frebuari
gamguata
gondii'i
gonduana
grandiosa
grirmafia
grutraxuakatlu
guanci
gugdrgogurio
gugdrnaidjiria
gugdrtalia
gugdrturkie
gugdrvietnama
ikfio
imperia
influenza
isxia
itkuile
jbokuile
jdotfrakio
jgitrviolino
jinmrniobi
jvalrio
jvinjiata
jvisiupaco
jvisuai
ka'urkuarka
kamxelio
kansiona
kansione
klaktno
klanrniut,ni
klanrxuati
klesnregio
klirniodi
klombia
kloviano
kompanio
konservatoria
krakoziabra
krilrkuartso
krilui
ku'ursekuoia
kuadranta
kuaidzi
kuardicka'u
kuardo
kuargo
kuarka
kuinke
kulnrlietuva
kulnrturkie
kumtrguanako
kumtrvikunia
kunrkuartso
lengua
lesrxapsurdie
liante
lianzi
lingua
liunko
luodna
madjio
malminiata
mandioka
martio
mastla
matriocka
mianma
mitxondrio
mlatrmiau
mudrguiborti
mudrkacia
mudrnsia
mustlei
nargrkaria
niengatu
nimrnlatifolia
nimrnxaurantifolia
niutni
nuansa
pamjiarkovni
pamniarkovni
patriarko
peizlemustiei
pipnrpiano
plagueni
plesio
postmo
prilio
prokioni
randietumla
rartni
rasrmiletia
ratcnrodentia
reksornitfisxia
reksrsaurisxia
reskuamata
restuatara
ricrbau'inia
ricrceratonia
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ricrgleditsia
ricrgosueilerodendro
ricrguiborti
ricrkacia
ricrkasia
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ricrmakia
ricrmiletia
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samcrniame
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samrsekiurceli
sanduici
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sargueia
saskrkuarka
selterselxeliumadbro
silxuete
skorpio
skunkua
slinkui
smanrpapio
snanorio
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sparanselia
sparartemisia
sparbaptisia
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sparbifrenaria
sparblandifordia
sparblomeria
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sparbrasia
spardalia
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spardo'elingeria
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spargimnadenia
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ont-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: =
0px; line-height: auto;">But how will we deal with the loss of {<span style=
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xeliumadbro}?? zo'o</span><br style=3D"font-family: 'helvetica Neue', helve=
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ize: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0px;"><font face=3D"helvetica Neue,=
 helvetica"><span style=3D"line-height: 19px;">zo'onai, all of these look t=
o be actually disqualified by the the glide rule except for a handful that =
have been invalid for a while due to long syllable codas (ex. {postmo} and =
{artmozaiko}), so this is a much better list pe'i.</span></font></div><div =
id=3D"bloop_customfont" style=3D"font-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); marg=
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ht: 19px;"><br></span></font></div><div id=3D"bloop_customfont" style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 13px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); margin: 0px;"><a href=3D"https://docs.g=
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usp=3Dsharing"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'helvetica =
Neue', helvetica; line-height: 19px;">This spreadsheet</span></a><font face=
=3D"helvetica Neue, helvetica"><span style=3D"line-height: 19px;">&nbsp;sho=
ws the words invalidated by the CGV rule and two possible ways to automatic=
ally fix them: replacing {xua} with {xuua} (CVGV) or with {xu'a} (CV'V), di=
scounting words where that doesn't help (because the result is a tosmabru o=
r a lujvo, for example). I am not saying we should apply a blanket fix with=
out looking through the words, but it's useful to have this list to look at=
.</span></font></div><div id=3D"bloop_customfont" style=3D"font-size: 13px;=
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52668928" class=3D"bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class=3D"airmail_on" style=3D"=
color:#000;">On April 19, 2015 at 12:13:51 PM, mukti (<a href=3D"mailto:shu=
npiker@gmail.com">shunpiker@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type=3D"c=
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<div>
<div>After the change to "consonantal-syllable", there are now 328
(previously, 416) impacted fu'ivla. There is no impact to other
word types.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>All of the fu'ivla that were specifically identified as being
impacted by the previous rule (badnrgrute,
baknrzebu,&nbsp;<span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica,=
 Arial;">catnrpepiskopo,&nbsp;</span>cipnrpika,
gurnrtefi) are once again parsing as fu'ivla. The updated list of
newly non-conforming fu'ivla reads:</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>abniena</div>
<div>alminiu</div>
<div>amnio</div>
<div>amniota</div>
<div>anmonia</div>
<div>artmozaiko</div>
<div>atkuila</div>
<div>bangrgogurio</div>
<div>bangrlietuva</div>
<div>bangrnaidjiria</div>
<div>bangrtalia</div>
<div>bangrturkie</div>
<div>bangrvietnama</div>
<div>bergamia</div>
<div>bianfu</div>
<div>biorka</div>
<div>bolrbliardo</div>
<div>bombiksia</div>
<div>braxiura</div>
<div>brevia</div>
<div>bruneleskia</div>
<div>campania</div>
<div>cibrfiorso</div>
<div>ciencia</div>
<div>cionmau</div>
<div>cipnrkanario</div>
<div>cipnrsagitariidai</div>
<div>cipnrsikonia</div>
<div>cipnrstrutio</div>
<div>cipnrxuazine</div>
<div>cirlnxiogluto</div>
<div>cirlrparmaregio</div>
<div>cistrxaioliano</div>
<div>cistrxioniano</div>
<div>ckabrceratonia</div>
<div>ckabrkacia</div>
<div>ckafruiski</div>
<div>ckankua</div>
<div>clevalua</div>
<div>cmavrui</div>
<div>cpirepiorni</div>
<div>cpirkasuari</div>
<div>crenzue</div>
<div>crimpui</div>
<div>dansrtuistu</div>
<div>debrceratonia</div>
<div>dianzi</div>
<div>djaguara</div>
<div>djanua</div>
<div>djekuole</div>
<div>djulio</div>
<div>djunio</div>
<div>e'urfausiace'a</div>
<div>enrio</div>
<div>ensiklopedia</div>
<div>eskua</div>
<div>februa</div>
<div>fiakre</div>
<div>fiesta</div>
<div>finprsinxnatfidai</div>
<div>finprsinxnatfinai</div>
<div>fiorso</div>
<div>fiprge'otria</div>
<div>fiprkaspiomizo</div>
<div>fiprlatimeria</div>
<div>fiprmia</div>
<div>fiprmordacia</div>
<div>fiprpoliodo</div>
<div>fortepiano</div>
<div>frangia</div>
<div>frebuari</div>
<div>gamguata</div>
<div>gondii'i</div>
<div>gonduana</div>
<div>grandiosa</div>
<div>grirmafia</div>
<div>grutraxuakatlu</div>
<div>guanci</div>
<div>gugdrgogurio</div>
<div>gugdrnaidjiria</div>
<div>gugdrtalia</div>
<div>gugdrturkie</div>
<div>gugdrvietnama</div>
<div>ikfio</div>
<div>imperia</div>
<div>influenza</div>
<div>isxia</div>
<div>itkuile</div>
<div>jbokuile</div>
<div>jdotfrakio</div>
<div>jgitrviolino</div>
<div>jinmrniobi</div>
<div>jvalrio</div>
<div>jvinjiata</div>
<div>jvisiupaco</div>
<div>jvisuai</div>
<div>ka'urkuarka</div>
<div>kamxelio</div>
<div>kansiona</div>
<div>kansione</div>
<div>klaktno</div>
<div>klanrniut,ni</div>
<div>klanrxuati</div>
<div>klesnregio</div>
<div>klirniodi</div>
<div>klombia</div>
<div>kloviano</div>
<div>kompanio</div>
<div>konservatoria</div>
<div>krakoziabra</div>
<div>krilrkuartso</div>
<div>krilui</div>
<div>ku'ursekuoia</div>
<div>kuadranta</div>
<div>kuaidzi</div>
<div>kuardicka'u</div>
<div>kuardo</div>
<div>kuargo</div>
<div>kuarka</div>
<div>kuinke</div>
<div>kulnrlietuva</div>
<div>kulnrturkie</div>
<div>kumtrguanako</div>
<div>kumtrvikunia</div>
<div>kunrkuartso</div>
<div>lengua</div>
<div>lesrxapsurdie</div>
<div>liante</div>
<div>lianzi</div>
<div>lingua</div>
<div>liunko</div>
<div>luodna</div>
<div>madjio</div>
<div>malminiata</div>
<div>mandioka</div>
<div>martio</div>
<div>mastla</div>
<div>matriocka</div>
<div>mianma</div>
<div>mitxondrio</div>
<div>mlatrmiau</div>
<div>mudrguiborti</div>
<div>mudrkacia</div>
<div>mudrnsia</div>
<div>mustlei</div>
<div>nargrkaria</div>
<div>niengatu</div>
<div>nimrnlatifolia</div>
<div>nimrnxaurantifolia</div>
<div>niutni</div>
<div>nuansa</div>
<div>pamjiarkovni</div>
<div>pamniarkovni</div>
<div>patriarko</div>
<div>peizlemustiei</div>
<div>pipnrpiano</div>
<div>plagueni</div>
<div>plesio</div>
<div>postmo</div>
<div>prilio</div>
<div>prokioni</div>
<div>randietumla</div>
<div>rartni</div>
<div>rasrmiletia</div>
<div>ratcnrodentia</div>
<div>reksornitfisxia</div>
<div>reksrsaurisxia</div>
<div>reskuamata</div>
<div>restuatara</div>
<div>ricrbau'inia</div>
<div>ricrceratonia</div>
<div>ricrdalbergia</div>
<div>ricrgleditsia</div>
<div>ricrgosueilerodendro</div>
<div>ricrguiborti</div>
<div>ricrkacia</div>
<div>ricrkasia</div>
<div>ricrko'ompasia</div>
<div>ricrmakia</div>
<div>ricrmiletia</div>
<div>ricrnsia</div>
<div>ricrparaseriante</div>
<div>rontnrodentia</div>
<div>rozrpimpinelifolia</div>
<div>rozrvirginia</div>
<div>rutrceratonia</div>
<div>rutrkacia</div>
<div>samcrniame</div>
<div>samcrpediomelu</div>
<div>samcrtigridia</div>
<div>samrsekiurceli</div>
<div>sanduici</div>
<div>sanguisuga</div>
<div>sargueia</div>
<div>saskrkuarka</div>
<div>selterselxeliumadbro</div>
<div>silxuete</div>
<div>skorpio</div>
<div>skunkua</div>
<div>slinkui</div>
<div>smanrpapio</div>
<div>snanorio</div>
<div>sparalistremeria</div>
<div>sparanselia</div>
<div>sparartemisia</div>
<div>sparbaptisia</div>
<div>sparbarkeria</div>
<div>sparbifrenaria</div>
<div>sparblandifordia</div>
<div>sparblomeria</div>
<div>sparbobgunia</div>
<div>sparbrasia</div>
<div>spardalia</div>
<div>spardasilirio</div>
<div>spardendrosenecio</div>
<div>spardikorinia</div>
<div>spardo'elingeria</div>
<div>spardrimia</div>
<div>sparekuisetu</div>
<div>sparflaveria</div>
<div>sparfresia</div>
<div>spargimnadenia</div>
<div>spargladiolu</div>
<div>sparglebioni</div>
<div>spargloriosa</div>
<div>spargodiera</div>
<div>sparguari'ante</div>
<div>sparionakti</div>
<div>sparkaliandra</div>
<div>sparkamasia</div>
<div>sparkaprifoliace'ai</div>
<div>sparkenedia</div>
<div>sparknipofia</div>
<div>sparkonvalaria</div>
<div>sparkrokosmia</div>
<div>sparkumerovia</div>
<div>sparlapeirusia</div>
<div>sparle'opoldia</div>
<div>sparledeboria</div>
<div>sparlelia</div>
<div>sparleliokatli'a</div>
<div>sparliatri</div>
<div>sparlibertia</div>
<div>sparligularia</div>
<div>sparliriope</div>
<div>sparmadevalia</div>
<div>sparmaksilaria</div>
<div>sparmiltasia</div>
<div>sparmiltonia</div>
<div>sparmiltoniopsi</div>
<div>sparmolineria</div>
<div>sparne'ofinetia</div>
<div>sparne'otia</div>
<div>sparneptunia</div>
<div>sparnoktomeria</div>
<div>sparnribia</div>
<div>sparnrinkolelia</div>
<div>sparnrosioglosu</div>
<div>sparnrudbekia</div>
<div>sparpafiopedilu</div>
<div>sparpapilionante</div>
<div>sparparasenekio</div>
<div>sparparkinsonia</div>
<div>sparpediomelu</div>
<div>sparpu'eraria</div>
<div>sparpulikaria</div>
<div>sparsagitaria</div>
<div>sparsanseviera</div>
<div>sparsenekio</div>
<div>sparspasia</div>
<div>sparsueinsona</div>
<div>spartelekia</div>
<div>spartigridia</div>
<div>spartolumnia</div>
<div>spartritonia</div>
<div>spartunia</div>
<div>sparuisteri</div>
<div>sparuvularia</div>
<div>sparxiacintu</div>
<div>spatriksia</div>
<div>spatrnakardiace</div>
<div>spatrsprekelia</div>
<div>spatrxapio</div>
<div>spinacia</div>
<div>srasrnrupia</div>
<div>stanruasabi</div>
<div>stepmania</div>
<div>strutione</div>
<div>suenska</div>
<div>suomne</div>
<div>tarnfornjiutkau</div>
<div>tceriomuxa</div>
<div>tcikonia</div>
<div>tcikuadranta</div>
<div>tcokotie</div>
<div>tiatro</div>
<div>tiotka</div>
<div>tirxriubatu</div>
<div>tricrafselia</div>
<div>tsaprguinense</div>
<div>tuitsku</div>
<div>tujrxomeria</div>
<div>tumrzilandia</div>
<div>uitkipedia</div>
<div>venzla</div>
<div>versio</div>
<div>vikmrvespasianu</div>
<div>vikrceratonia</div>
<div>violbasu</div>
<div>violna</div>
<div>violni</div>
<div>violtcelo</div>
<div>virtuale</div>
<div>xaslrkianga</div>
<div>xipfne</div>
<div>xirngrevii</div>
<div>xirnkuaga</div>
<div>xriniakci</div>
<div>xrisrbiblia</div>
<div>xuandi</div>
<div>xumrsueinsona</div>
<div>zarziei</div>
<div>zduriane</div>
<div>zgikrkumbia</div>
<div>zgirkumbia</div>
<div>zinkenxamburgiei</div>
<div>zu'erxiolo</div>
<div>zukmiai</div>
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