Received: from mail-oi0-f61.google.com ([209.85.218.61]:33155) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YjuKo-0008Ii-Uh; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:52 -0700 Received: by oiax69 with SMTP id x69sf32408992oia.0; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=A2iGQFpjsgu4g48u9rY8pzqgjTbLILTRGCDyt5TNe4g=; b=ELu6AUef/H0D5ovBKu2tOA66G7VG/2CwWtMgQNXwLDTVDfxuCRZ6HUZYF8nCaSFnch Fd1HY8T5/ky/7EPb0Wajktm9mJHhZx4cpUKjC46CJQdy5X7qTOgvUQUz1RnKvANKvXeX uzEOMzsYDELLBBdtyIUv5Ppy0RbMGXhk/GO7Agtvp+n6Co2GNXrHl0qGKMADO6xj0H9N l5XV1yQU+Ezdfojl3EjmEgxAz4NkK0oTKHTb09rHT9g4uOJ/BhHvyTPH3/9irPs5Qu0C 1r8H3sH+Tah2xKq8hMpu6ILxiBeBEeNfpDyC+m5gg2+VdRVCH8pkBEh3gM+mjhJrLigN 5T5A== X-Received: by 10.50.67.100 with SMTP id m4mr238066igt.12.1429469564693; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.107.3.35 with SMTP id 35ls1751557iod.40.gmail; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.228.129 with SMTP id si1mr18039414pac.22.1429469564457; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk0-x22e.google.com (mail-qk0-x22e.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y1si373422qcq.1.2015.04.19.11.52.44 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e; Received: by mail-qk0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 62so176134631qkx.0 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.146.19 with SMTP id 19mr14527311qhs.74.1429469564289; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alexs-air-2 (c-71-225-198-215.hsd1.pa.comcast.net. [71.225.198.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g51sm12791648qgg.23.2015.04.19.11.52.42 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 14:52:41 -0400 From: Alex Burka To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20150419182803.GA26194@mercury.ccil.org> References: <3a950976-061b-4c16-a533-431c1ffbc829@googlegroups.com> <6186523.Zc97XNv9L4@caracal> <826904a5-ffa3-41d8-82d8-ca277ab0be73@googlegroups.com> <28352dca-af8f-4852-913c-658ed7969125@googlegroups.com> <09e1983d-5985-422b-96c1-71be8027a78a@googlegroups.com> <20150419182803.GA26194@mercury.ccil.org> Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: official cmavo form X-Mailer: Airmail Beta (301) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="5533f979_43fffdc3_ccaf" X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of durka42@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=durka42@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --5533f979_43fffdc3_ccaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I don't have a strong feeling on which "quick fix" is better. The issue tha= t makes it messy is it's hard to do uniformly, because each has its own wri= nkle: CGV=3D>CVGV creates tosmabru if the CGV was initial, whereas CGV=3D>C= V'V sometimes creates slinku'i or lujvo-shaped words, the latter of which i= s a tcizbaga-type situation (and I know some BPFK members don't think that'= s a problem). mu'o mi'e durkavore On April 19, 2015 at 2:28:06 PM, John Cowan (cowan@mercury.ccil.org) wrote: mukti scripsit:=20 > Thanks, durka! I'm willing to proceed in whichever direction BPFK=20 > indicates, i.e. marking the non-conforming words as obsolete, or applying= =20 > changes to the words so that they conform. re: gleki's suggestion, once t= he=20 > changes have been applied for v135 (or v112951 per LMW), I'd be glad to= =20 > consider a similar revision to the list of words marked obsolete by=20 > previous changes to the morphological rules.=20 I would be in favor of breaking up the CGV into CV'V uniformly. THe=20 only downside is that this will shift stress where the CGV is final,=20 but I can live with that.=20 "You vill give me d'inSTRUment!" --English with an Esperanto accent=20 --=20 John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org=20 When I'm stuck in something boring where reading would be impossible or=20 rude, I often set up math problems for myself and solve them as a way=20 to pass the time. --John Jenkins=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group.=20 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.=20 To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com.=20 Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list.=20 For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.=20 --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --5533f979_43fffdc3_ccaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline =
I don't have a strong feeling on which "quick fix"= is better. The issue that makes it messy is it's hard to do uniformly, bec= ause each has its own wrinkle: CGV=3D>CVGV creates tosmabru if the CGV w= as initial, whereas CGV=3D>CV'V sometimes creates slinku'i or lujvo-shap= ed words, the latter of which is a tcizbaga-type situation (and I know some= BPFK members don't think that's a problem).

mu'o mi'e durkavore


On April 19, 2015 at 2:28:06 PM, Jo= hn Cowan (cowan@mercury.ccil.org<= /a>) wrote:

mukti scripsit:

> Thanks, durka! I'm willing to proceed in whichever direction BPFK = =20
> indicates, i.e. marking the non-conforming words as obsolete, or a= pplying =20
> changes to the words so that they conform. re: gleki's suggestion,= once the =20
> changes have been applied for v135 (or v112951 per LMW), I'd be gl= ad to =20
> consider a similar revision to the list of words marked obsolete b= y =20
> previous changes to the morphological rules. =20

I would be in favor of breaking up the CGV into CV'V uniformly. THe
only downside is that this will shift stress where the CGV is final,
but I can live with that.

"You vill give me d'inSTRUment!" --English with an Esperanto accent

-- =20
John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org
When I'm stuck in something boring where reading would be impossible or
rude, I often set up math problems for myself and solve them as a way
to pass the time. --John Jenkins

-- =20
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Grou= ps "BPFK" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send = an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &= quot;BPFK" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to
bpfk-list= +unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at ht= tp://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list.
For more options, visit http= s://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--5533f979_43fffdc3_ccaf--