Received: from mail-la0-f58.google.com ([209.85.215.58]:33024) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1YjuQx-0008PD-Fc; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:18 -0700 Received: by labgd6 with SMTP id gd6sf49474438lab.0; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=YKnbzrtjAmz3uFVxrtvKQZPonmxG/VcaN00lJfyTjZI=; b=UtrBTJ8EVjldJUfmz2lrOCBkE6EollRV81w/OdDEPr0iaUdKfJgbw1cYnIpaiMdqYd KjDV8qCrnejX4JwqMU38wq1tQTyX32KUHIn7P74C9fl3U7GE8ThcZ70FtRbkdqyRkIrG Qtjkng7EHR8l1bsVMLTKNTtz42CNqmkT1tcKjF7oQu6HTH1bFE6jj9Pw2iIKx0kS4I24 YmjqjnUNUMdM0f/8Np3rfbQbk7oVtsDawMdaAZ56nBBt2vm38fh7LwHiepuAreVtm6QZ t46xVIVSGNeIszuPYGSmnRr4OYD5rgIhZdashKK3ygHTIlCe8sBrigYlklU9RGo3CkX4 lANQ== X-Received: by 10.152.1.129 with SMTP id 1mr21852lam.2.1429469943967; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.225.134 with SMTP id rk6ls735332lac.83.gmail; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.138.2 with SMTP id qm2mr5656055lbb.19.1429469943198; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com (mail-wi0-x231.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ec7si661167wib.3.2015.04.19.11.59.03 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::231; Received: by mail-wi0-x231.google.com with SMTP id x7so68179889wia.0 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.218.201 with SMTP id pi9mr19223323wic.53.1429469943125; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.56.18 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 11:59:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3a950976-061b-4c16-a533-431c1ffbc829@googlegroups.com> <6186523.Zc97XNv9L4@caracal> <826904a5-ffa3-41d8-82d8-ca277ab0be73@googlegroups.com> <28352dca-af8f-4852-913c-658ed7969125@googlegroups.com> <09e1983d-5985-422b-96c1-71be8027a78a@googlegroups.com> <20150419182803.GA26194@mercury.ccil.org> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:59:03 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: official cmavo form From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134c5942d596a05141868c0 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1134c5942d596a05141868c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Alex Burka wrote: > I don't have a strong feeling on which "quick fix" is better. The issue > that makes it messy is it's hard to do uniformly, because each has its own > wrinkle: CGV=>CVGV creates tosmabru if the CGV was initial, whereas > CGV=>CV'V sometimes creates slinku'i or lujvo-shaped words, the latter of > which is a tcizbaga-type situation (and I know some BPFK members don't > think that's a problem). > The apostrophe fix is more "lojbanic". in the sense that it uses forms that already exist in lujvo instead of forms exclusive to fu'ivla/cmevla, so the resulting words look more like core lojban words. But, as you say, it doesn't always work. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1134c5942d596a05141868c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com>= wrote:
I don't have a strong feelin= g on which "quick fix" is better. The issue that makes it messy i= s it's hard to do uniformly, because each has its own wrinkle: CGV=3D&g= t;CVGV creates tosmabru if the CGV was initial, whereas CGV=3D>CV'V = sometimes creates slinku'i or lujvo-shaped words, the latter of which i= s a tcizbaga-type situation (and I know some BPFK members don't think t= hat's a problem).

The apost= rophe fix is more "lojbanic". in the sense that it uses forms tha= t already exist in lujvo instead of forms exclusive to fu'ivla/cmevla, = so the resulting words look more like core lojban words. But, as you say, i= t doesn't always work.

mu'o mi'e xorxe= s

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