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Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:20:07 -0300
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Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: official cmavo form
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On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM, John Cowan <cowan@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:

> Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas scripsit:
>
> > The apostrophe fix is more "lojbanic". in the sense that it uses forms
> that
> > already exist in lujvo instead of forms exclusive to fu'ivla/cmevla, so
> the
> > resulting words look more like core lojban words. But, as you say, it
> > doesn't always work.
>
> It can fail if the prefix is CVC or non-existent, but always works with
> 4-letter prefixes.  The only constraint then is "starts with a consonant,
> ends with a vowel".
>

I think it always works with a CVC prefix too. Type-3 always have a
consonantal syllable, so they can never be confused with lujvo, which never
have consonantal syllables. So yes, it's type-4s where it sometimes fails,
because the apostrophe may create either a lujvo or a slinku'i.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 4:09 PM, John Cowan <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:cowan@mercury.ccil.org" target=3D"_blank">cowan@mercury.ccil.o=
rg</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Jorge Llamb=C3=
=ADas scripsit:<br>
<span class=3D""><br>
&gt; The apostrophe fix is more &quot;lojbanic&quot;. in the sense that it =
uses forms that<br>
&gt; already exist in lujvo instead of forms exclusive to fu&#39;ivla/cmevl=
a, so the<br>
&gt; resulting words look more like core lojban words. But, as you say, it<=
br>
&gt; doesn&#39;t always work.<br>
<br>
</span>It can fail if the prefix is CVC or non-existent, but always works w=
ith<br>
4-letter prefixes.=C2=A0 The only constraint then is &quot;starts with a co=
nsonant,<br>
ends with a vowel&quot;.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think it alw=
ays works with a CVC prefix too. Type-3 always have a consonantal syllable,=
 so they can never be confused with lujvo, which never have consonantal syl=
lables. So yes, it&#39;s type-4s where it sometimes fails, because the apos=
trophe may create either a lujvo or a slinku&#39;i.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>

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