Received: from mail-yk0-f191.google.com ([209.85.160.191]:33591) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Yjvo7-00017B-Bc; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:27:19 -0700 Received: by ykq19 with SMTP id 19sf33307419ykq.0; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=nHYA/3L/Wb0qR2FfYDU85knpMkqs22pW34u/z4cFyT4=; b=QSoPpysU9N3TtGZ94/qdY5rnpTVBS7L23qptM2v0BZx+krdDU9EusegTwwETZPHmRV rsn0qsO8kd+GM45MTVQlfZZNJqdisntmPOAmNW6sVxOcub6ndu28ClGqkujRw/b3YPqA ikM5t5bK1wSyBk57uvQ9zwTW1TomLeymqQ5VCGo8wWr83wJfsrrm8OSDRV1NLQhgrwa4 xvKybeZRX/eAqsDeT8iz6MDgzwW+OqMaPLYRE3mnY8pDlX1YZuUBEAj3V8rGrPRYehbO YqSzH0g+cbvaMS7uAa8aNfGshU4NK6jsmPqm7gNdQVcOZQKu9WnqEi6vRrP2jwbzNTy+ XMoQ== X-Received: by 10.140.93.14 with SMTP id c14mr168134qge.42.1429475224858; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.102.212 with SMTP id w78ls2624910qge.36.gmail; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.1.102 with SMTP id 66mr18247404yhc.28.1429475224735; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id lr7si508577igb.2.2015.04.19.13.27.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Apr 2015 13:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Iu8nLtPg c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:117 a=8WxDmEN+yG9ijBF2nxzWZQ==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=zx0GPhIIxR8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=-Y53KbbiMRi-8dqvWssA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 45.37.90.97 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [45.37.90.97] ([45.37.90.97:36393] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 11/D5-14540-89F04355; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:27:04 -0400 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52F0F46F8 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:27:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] Type-3 fu'ivla Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:26:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3437413.pSJnAqNUHa@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13.3 (Linux/3.13.0-48-generic; KDE/4.13.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <2784442.v0lozh8p0x@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 23:18:08 Alex Burka wrote: > Given that type-3 fu'ivla are pretty much a convention anyway, these seem > reasonable to me, especially #1. I don't see a big problem with so-called > "type-3.5 fu'ivla" such as {djarspageti} or {sparfaiu}. And I guess > {xoxrbeba} would be type 4, technically. Are you contradicting yourself or disagreeing with me? In #2, I'm proposing that whether a fu'ivla is type-3 or type-4 be determined purely morphologically, ignoring whether the rafsi in the type-3 actually belongs to any gismu. Thus "xoxrbeba" is type-3, just as "bakrkobu" is type-3. Pierre -- The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.