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.u'e sutra spuda

Okay, fair enough. It's really CLL 10.25 that I don't understand (which is =
how this came up). It seems like CLL 10.25 is trying to tag a termset, {zu'=
a nu'i la .djordj. la'u lo mitre be li re}. But it's not tagged (jbofi'e no=
twithstanding), and I'm not clear on whether {la .djordj.} would end up in =
the main selbri's place structure.

- mu'o mi'e durkavore

On April 22, 2015 at 7:30:26 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas (jjllambias@gmail.com)=
 wrote:


On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Alex Burka <durka42@gmail.com> wrote:
I apologize if I'm bringing up a sore subject that's been discussed before.

I don't remember this being discussed before.
=C2=A0
But I found a parsing difference between jbofi'e and camxes:

Text in question: {bai nu'i ge da gi de}, i.e. a forethought termset inside=
 (or so I thought) a modal tag

jbofi'e output:=C2=A0(0[{bai <nu'i (1[ge da gi de] NU'U)1>} VAU])0
camxes output:=C2=A0([{bai KU} {nu'i ge da NUhU gi de NUhU}] VAU)

Clearly a bug in jbofi'e. A termset is a set (sequence) of terms, and terms=
 are already tagged, they cannot be tagged a second time.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Apparently, jbofi'e regards the termset as inside the modal, while camxes d=
oesn't. This seems quite significant, since if I added a selbri {bai nu'i g=
e da gi de broda}, the x1 of broda is either {zo'e} or {da}+{de}, depending=
 on whether the termset is encapsulated by the modal or not.

YACC/EBNF grammar agrees with camxes.=C2=A0

Is this a known parsing difference? Is it related to gek-termsets? Do I sim=
ply still not understand termsets?

I don't think it's related to gek-termsets, no.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style>=
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kit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id=3D"bloop_customfont" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: =
0px; line-height: auto;">.u'e sutra spuda</div><div id=3D"bloop_customfont"=
 style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0=
); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id=3D"bloop_customfont" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0)=
; margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Okay, fair enough. It's really CLL 10.25=
 that I don't understand (which is how this came up). It seems like CLL 10.=
25 is trying to tag a termset, {zu'a nu'i la .djordj. la'u lo mitre be li r=
e}. But it's not tagged (jbofi'e notwithstanding), and I'm not clear on whe=
ther {la .djordj.} would end up in the main selbri's place structure.</div>=
 <div><br></div>- mu'o mi'e durkavore<br> <div id=3D"bloop_sign_14297458811=
88759040" class=3D"bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class=3D"airmail_on" style=3D"=
color:#000;">On April 22, 2015 at 7:30:26 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas (<a href=
=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>


<title></title>


<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:17 PM, Alex
Burka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:durka42@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">durka42@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">I apologize if I'm bringing up a
sore subject that's been discussed before.</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>I don't remember this being discussed before.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">But I found a parsing difference
between jbofi'e and camxes:
<div><br></div>
<div>Text in question: {bai nu'i ge da gi de}, i.e. a forethought
termset inside (or so I thought) a modal tag</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>jbofi'e output:&nbsp;(0[{bai &lt;nu'i (1[ge da gi de]
NU'U)1&gt;} VAU])0</div>
<div>camxes output:&nbsp;([{bai KU} {nu'i ge da NUhU gi de NUhU}]
VAU)</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Clearly a bug in jbofi'e. A termset is a set (sequence) of
terms, and terms are already tagged, they cannot be tagged a second
time.&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>Apparently, jbofi'e regards the termset as inside the modal,
while camxes doesn't. This seems quite significant, since if I
added a selbri {bai nu'i ge da gi de broda}, the x1 of broda is
either {zo'e} or {da}+{de}, depending on whether the termset is
encapsulated by the modal or not.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>YACC/EBNF grammar agrees with camxes.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">
<div>Is this a known parsing difference? Is it related to
gek-termsets? Do I simply still not understand termsets?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>I don't think it's related to gek-termsets, no.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>mu'o mi'e xorxes</div>
<div><br></div>
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