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On 13/05/2015 13:12, Ilmen wrote:
2. Lojban sentences for "I don't sleep because of your loud noise."

2-1-1. {ki'u} in the scope of {naku}.
{naku mi sipna ki'u lo nu do cladu}
"I sleep because of your loud noise" is false.
It may signify:
-1. "The reason for my sleeping is not your loud noise," [1] or,
-2. "I don't sleep; if I were sleeping, the reason for my sleeping would be your loud noise."
Both interpretations are unusual.
pe'i smuni dunli ja jibni lu jitfa fa lo du'u mi sipna ki'u lo nu do cladu li'u .i pe'i naku natfe ge lo du'u da'i ja'a sipna ki'u lo drata be lo nu cladu gi lo du'u na sipna

sa'e pe'i naku natfe ba'e ga lo du'u da'i ja'a sipna ki'u lo drata be lo nu cladu gi lo du'u na sipna


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