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Subject: Re: [bpfk] {cifnu}. Clarifying the semantics of the gismu
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On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:09 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Now: {cifnu} = x1 is an infant/baby [helpless through youth/incomplete
> development] of species x2. |>>> Also infantile.  See also makcu, verba.
>
> Proposed: {cifnu} = x1 is an infant, baby, young offspring of species x2.
> |>>> Not necessarily helpless. See also makcu, verba, panzi.
>
> Reason: a discussion
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/N5bA5JlhroQ> shows that
> one shouldn't paid attention to "infant", "helpless" and "infantile" words.
> Separate words for "altricial/precocial", stages of development like
> larvae, imago etc. and for immature/mature are to be invented instead.
>

Sounds reasonable. Is there a way to implement this while keeping the
original wording available for reference? Many gismu definitions need
improvement, but we probably want to keep the original wording safe
somewhere as a historical record.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 9:09 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Now: {cifnu} =3D x1 is an infant/baby [helpless through youth/inco=
mplete development] of species x2. |&gt;&gt;&gt; Also infantile.=C2=A0 See =
also makcu, verba.<div><br></div><div>Proposed:=C2=A0{cifnu} =3D x1 is an i=
nfant, baby, young offspring of species x2. |&gt;&gt;&gt; Not necessarily h=
elpless. See also makcu, verba,=C2=A0panzi.</div><div><br></div><div>Reason=
: a <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/N5bA5JlhroQ" =
target=3D"_blank">discussion</a>=C2=A0shows that one shouldn&#39;t paid att=
ention to &quot;infant&quot;, &quot;helpless&quot; and &quot;infantile&quot=
; words. Separate words for &quot;altricial/precocial&quot;, stages of deve=
lopment like larvae, imago etc. and for immature/mature are to be invented =
instead.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sounds reasonable. Is =
there a way to implement this while keeping the original wording available =
for reference? Many gismu definitions need improvement, but we probably wan=
t to keep the original wording safe somewhere as a historical record.</div>=
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><br></div></div>

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