Received: from mail-lb0-f190.google.com ([209.85.217.190]:33158) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YztwO-00055s-TN; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:49 -0700 Received: by lbdu14 with SMTP id u14sf53419977lbd.0; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=w3jFRIlH9bWDpkwnpH1nyVG+lMPFHMIY+zP+65JsIzM=; b=LyNN4hFZ7jLpq+l1ZxZ3AwAhUlr6fOk/Aizbs3z2ZRBC3gu4RMN/qTecEI34dbZnvY hRiDmqQXAp4jHX6feXquuoQ3NiX5EDRcUCX+wEToiuv+jwteGXFBmGss8V3Yf1JZKcM/ XwzYMMjzuOGoCsLgQ9umkSgJfDtQkHkYSBy9sreSh46yvC31xRVuBtHHSUjyWPRegJ37 IKkmVQzh7QpoyjwfhqipYE0aaY7YGTGXmorUySLRuX+5R6w0imum65qLWkSBzYysFqpM mu6TlBCVe8dsfBwoATtF+PTOSWz+OM8WOkB5uqBjuytRGOut0zHTTU6Dk5p3EpIXSPuA lRYQ== X-Received: by 10.180.36.49 with SMTP id n17mr9781wij.18.1433281297705; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.101.227 with SMTP id fj3ls1003170wib.46.canary; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.73.137 with SMTP id l9mr18245957wiv.5.1433281297453; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com. [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt9si735098wib.2.2015.06.02.14.41.37 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a; Received: by mail-wi0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id dq8so71959663wib.1 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.216.196 with SMTP id os4mr55256924wjc.117.1433281297323; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.26.17 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <556E215E.8020007@lojban.org> References: <556E215E.8020007@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:41:37 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Grammar of letterals and numerals in {li} From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2902a971da405178fce37 X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c2902a971da405178fce37 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Bob LeChevalier wrote: > On 6/2/2015 4:54 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote: > >> Only "li R2D2", because "R2D2" would no longer be a valid lerfu-string. >> > > So you are claiming that Lojban would not be usable to translate "Star > Wars"? > Of course I'm not claiming anything like that. In Spanish, BTW, RTD2 is called "Arturito", not "Erre dos de dos". If a string can be expressed or written, then it is inherently "valid" as a > string, even if it meaningless. Not sure what that means, but using "no bu", "pa bu", "re bu", etc to read digits as characters might help there. More important to me is actually used stuff, like lerfu pronouns around quantifiers, MOI-selbri, and ROI-tenses. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c2902a971da405178fce37 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Bob LeChevalier <<= a href=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojbab@lojban.org= > wrote:
On 6/= 2/2015 4:54 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas wrote:
Only "li R2D2", because "R2D2" would no longer be a val= id lerfu-string.

So you are claiming that Lojban would not be usable to translate "Star= Wars"?

Of course I'm not clai= ming anything like that.=C2=A0 In Spanish, BTW, RTD2 is called "Arturi= to", not "Erre dos de dos".

If a string can be expressed or written, then it is inherently "valid&= quot; as a string, even if it meaningless.

= =C2=A0Not sure what that means, but using "no bu", "pa bu&qu= ot;, "re bu", etc to read digits as characters might help there.= =C2=A0

More important to me is actually used stuff= , like lerfu pronouns around quantifiers, MOI-selbri, and ROI-tenses.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

=

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