Received: from mail-yk0-f188.google.com ([209.85.160.188]:32853) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1.2:AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZIDr3-0004hY-MD; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:36:12 -0700 Received: by ykdt188 with SMTP id t188sf23926424ykd.0; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:content-type:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-spam-checked-in-group:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=jMqEbkDtfzEn09jzLimW2VjWdIdgqz2ng3HFk8HsTGk=; b=tTOP5a5CUtPbLDOluj8en/v1PRYNH920YT/oed7xe9Fo6Cw5aDAOp22v9Nc7JVvxWQ Mchmv1hFKnACsPvNsYiEbYCTy/SuzYNH7Ej2q1BlPuitJxnhR5135jij/vRf5f0VkzIe d1bKFqm1nkbW3QQwWkVqvFejkNkXIl5WyVslLL3v8SbGKAQRRx+n+tkBcv4hogfSonTb abGDWy+V4C8A+nEftwdgs4s32lrgsrLa9bAPS0CpyvoI0ExzuFn7wZzhFh3osvSpGZMq l6ilmgwrULsBWVS57+O9hFklFMZC867ZTH/o9yToeNDq7YV37t1m+cQzqcX2Z7FNqT1e PCow== X-Received: by 10.50.49.72 with SMTP id s8mr626711ign.12.1437647751561; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.66.163 with SMTP id g3ls2448711igt.28.canary; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.146.227 with SMTP id tf3mr7632914pab.21.1437647751356; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vn0-x240.google.com (mail-vn0-x240.google.com. [2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::240]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ci2si128454vdd.3.2015.07.23.03.35.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of spheniscine@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::240 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::240; Received: by vnct143 with SMTP id t143so54420201vnc.0 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.171.200 with SMTP id aw8mr269778igc.6.1437647751256; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 03:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Spheniscine (la zipcpi)" To: lojban Cc: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com, gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Message-Id: <68d4ecc6-6c91-431d-b62f-f1499742d240@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [bpfk] Re: Internal grammar of UI, NAI and CAI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_755_406588808.1437647749767" X-Original-Sender: spheniscine@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of spheniscine@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c0f::240 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=spheniscine@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_755_406588808.1437647749767 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_756_1371451372.1437647749767" ------=_Part_756_1371451372.1437647749767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > - zo'o ko citka ta >> > > I think this is wrong if we expand {ko} into {do ko'oi}. Then we get two > attitudinals not connected to each other. Hence the meaning would be "I > state that you eat it (kidding). [Please], eat it!" > Hm this seems difficult. My opinion is that the elided attitudinal before {zo'o} is an elliptical illocution that *usually* is {ju'a} (statement/assertion), but {ko} then overrides that with {ko'oi} (imperative/hortative). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_756_1371451372.1437647749767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I th= ink this is wrong if we expand {ko} into {do ko'oi}. Then we get two at= titudinals not connected to each other. Hence the meaning would be "I = state that you eat it (kidding). [Please], eat it!"
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Hm this seems difficult. My opinion is that the elided att= itudinal before {zo'o} is an elliptical illocution that *usually* is {j= u'a} (statement/assertion), but {ko} then overrides that with {ko'o= i} (imperative/hortative).

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