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[69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p84si168621itg.1.2016.11.23.01.11.56 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Nov 2016 01:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X-Authed-Username: cGhtYUBodWdoZXMubmV0 X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=JM4C7a6b c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:117 a=5n1d6GSJGnnyfnXdd0Hfiw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=L24OOQBejmoA:10 a=QZam-5MpAAAA:8 a=rBzkbAnXFo4TabuhnG4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=z5jcEyjuYpMA:10 a=a8ySuYoXnTE1t6fLJY6E:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 174.109.123.133 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of leaf.dragonflybsd.org) Received: from [174.109.123.133] ([174.109.123.133:54920] helo=bezitopo.org) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 6D/B9-03952-B5D55385; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:11:56 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bezitopo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702B8BA31 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:11:53 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] ma smuni zo frumu Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:10:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3706616.metbMd8CZC@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/5.1.3 (Linux/4.4.0-45-generic; KDE/5.18.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Original-Sender: phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org) smtp.mailfrom=phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Spam-Checked-In-Group: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Google-Group-Id: 972099695765 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_bar: - On Monday, September 26, 2016 3:19:47 PM EST Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > i eipei mi fanva ro la'e di'e lo lojbo i pe'i nandu gi'u cumki >=20 > lai .krtis.: > http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/frowns.html?m=3D= 1 >=20 > Is this the U.S. American "frown" primarily of a downturned mouth and whi= ch > usually means negative emotions? Or is it the British sense of just a > furrowed brow (forehead), which can mean all sorts of things, including > negative ones but also (but not limited too): a reaction to pain (possibl= y > covered in the Usian sense too, as a grimace), concentration, a questioni= ng > look, a prompting look, or surprise. >=20 > My reading is the U.S. sense. It says "frown/grimace"; while both senses > can encapsulate this meaning, the U.S. sense does so exclusively, making = it > a better match. Additionally, mebri could be used for the British sense > (in lujvo). Now, badri could be used for the U.S. sense, but it may not > cover all forms of grimacing. >=20 > But I am a Usian, so I might be biased. >=20 > In any case, how should we say the other sense or specific meanings? > (Possibly confer: corci). pe'i mi'o pensi .ei lo valsi pe bau lo drata ke krasi bangu ge'u .e lo=20 vlacitri .i zoi .gy. frown .gy. se krasi zoi .ky. frogna .ky. noi ficymupli= =20 zoi .ky. srogna .ky. noi selsmu zo nazbi .enai zo mebri .abo zo moklu lo=20 kelgalo .i zoi .ky. srogna .ky. krasi zoi .gy. sron .gy. noi gailge (to mi = na=20 djuno lo du'u makau krasi zoi .my. trwyn .my. noi mraigo toi) ni'o la .uikivlacukt. vasru lo drata valsi co krasi be zo frumu ku po'u zoi= =20 .sy. fruncir .sy. e zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 .ry= . e zoi .jy. =E6=84=81=E7=9C=89=E9=A0=AD .jy .i na vasru lo=20 vlavelcki be le jungo .i le spano cu se vlavelcki zoi .gy. pucker, wrinkle= =20 .gy. noi nibyti'i lo du'u srana lo mebri .i le rusko cu se vlavelcki zoi .g= y.=20 gloomy, sullen .gy .i pe'i zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=82=D1= =8C .ry. drani valsi .iku'i se=20 vlavelcki zoi .gy. frown .gy. sa'u .i la poi rusko .uikivlacukt. na vasru l= o=20 vlavelcki mu'omi'e .piier. --=20 The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave. The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave= . --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.