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2016-11-23 12:10 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org>:

> On Monday, September 26, 2016 3:19:47 PM EST Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> > i eipei mi fanva ro la'e di'e lo lojbo i pe'i nandu gi'u cumki
> >
> > lai .krtis.:
> > http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/frowns.html?m=
=3D1
> >
> > Is this the U.S. American "frown" primarily of a downturned mouth and
> which
> > usually means negative emotions? Or is it the British sense of just a
> > furrowed brow (forehead), which can mean all sorts of things, including
> > negative ones but also (but not limited too): a reaction to pain
> (possibly
> > covered in the Usian sense too, as a grimace), concentration, a
> questioning
> > look, a prompting look, or surprise.
> >
> > My reading is the U.S. sense. It says "frown/grimace"; while both sense=
s
> > can encapsulate this meaning, the U.S. sense does so exclusively, makin=
g
> it
> > a better match. Additionally, mebri could be used for the British sense
> > (in lujvo). Now, badri could be used for the U.S. sense, but it may not
> > cover all forms of grimacing.
> >
> > But I am a Usian, so I might be biased.
> >
> > In any case, how should we say the other sense or specific meanings?
> > (Possibly confer: corci).
>
> pe'i mi'o pensi .ei lo valsi pe bau lo drata ke krasi bangu ge'u .e lo
> vlacitri .i zoi .gy. frown .gy. se krasi zoi .ky. frogna .ky. noi ficymup=
li
> zoi .ky. srogna .ky. noi selsmu zo nazbi .enai zo mebri .abo zo moklu lo
> kelgalo .i zoi .ky. srogna .ky. krasi zoi .gy. sron .gy. noi gailge (to m=
i
> na
> djuno lo du'u makau krasi zoi .my. trwyn .my. noi mraigo toi)
>
> ni'o la .uikivlacukt. vasru lo drata valsi co krasi be zo frumu ku po'u z=
oi
> .sy. fruncir .sy. e zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 .=
ry. e zoi .jy. =E6=84=81=E7=9C=89=E9=A0=AD .jy .i na vasru lo
> vlavelcki be le jungo .i le spano cu se vlavelcki zoi .gy. pucker, wrinkl=
e
> .gy. noi nibyti'i lo du'u srana lo mebri .i le rusko cu se vlavelcki zoi
> .gy.
> gloomy, sullen .gy .i pe'i zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=82=
=D1=8C .ry. drani valsi .iku'i se
> vlavelcki zoi .gy. frown .gy. sa'u .i la poi rusko .uikivlacukt. na vasru
> lo
> vlavelcki
>
>
i pe'i lo satci smuvelcki cu zmadu lo tarmi be lo valsi lo ka vajni
i pei do finti lo lojbo smuvelcki a lo glico smuvelcki i babo mi'o casnu lo
mapti tarmi

i mu'a zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B9 .ry. skicu lo prenu po=
i simlu lo ka na gleki gi'e
ba'e ja'o gasnu lo nu da cinje lo mebri


> mu'omi'e .piier.
> --
> The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.
> The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing
> snave.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">2016-11-23 12:10 GMT+03:00 Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@leaf.dragonfl=
ybsd.org</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x"><span class=3D"gmail-">On Monday, September 26, 2016 3:19:47 PM EST Glek=
i Arxokuna wrote:<br>
&gt; i eipei mi fanva ro la&#39;e di&#39;e lo lojbo i pe&#39;i nandu gi&#39=
;u cumki<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; lai .krtis.:<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://separatedbyacommonlanguage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/fr=
owns.html?m=3D1" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://<wbr>separated=
byacommonlanguage.<wbr>blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/frowns.<wbr>html?m=3D1</a><br=
>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Is this the U.S. American &quot;frown&quot; primarily of a downturned =
mouth and which<br>
&gt; usually means negative emotions? Or is it the British sense of just a<=
br>
&gt; furrowed brow (forehead), which can mean all sorts of things, includin=
g<br>
&gt; negative ones but also (but not limited too): a reaction to pain (poss=
ibly<br>
&gt; covered in the Usian sense too, as a grimace), concentration, a questi=
oning<br>
&gt; look, a prompting look, or surprise.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My reading is the U.S. sense. It says &quot;frown/grimace&quot;; while=
 both senses<br>
&gt; can encapsulate this meaning, the U.S. sense does so exclusively, maki=
ng it<br>
&gt; a better match. Additionally, mebri could be used for the British sens=
e<br>
&gt; (in lujvo). Now, badri could be used for the U.S. sense, but it may no=
t<br>
&gt; cover all forms of grimacing.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But I am a Usian, so I might be biased.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In any case, how should we say the other sense or specific meanings?<b=
r>
&gt; (Possibly confer: corci).<br>
<br>
</span>pe&#39;i mi&#39;o pensi .ei lo valsi pe bau lo drata ke krasi bangu =
ge&#39;u .e lo<br>
vlacitri .i zoi .gy. frown .gy. se krasi zoi .ky. frogna .ky. noi ficymupli=
<br>
zoi .ky. srogna .ky. noi selsmu zo nazbi .enai zo mebri .abo zo moklu lo<br=
>
kelgalo .i zoi .ky. srogna .ky. krasi zoi .gy. sron .gy. noi gailge (to mi =
na<br>
djuno lo du&#39;u makau krasi zoi .my. trwyn .my. noi mraigo toi)<br>
<br>
ni&#39;o la .uikivlacukt. vasru lo drata valsi co krasi be zo frumu ku po&#=
39;u zoi<br>
.sy. fruncir .sy. e zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D0=BD=D1=8B=D0=B9 .ry=
. e zoi .jy. =E6=84=81=E7=9C=89=E9=A0=AD .jy .i na vasru lo<br>
vlavelcki be le jungo .i le spano cu se vlavelcki zoi .gy. pucker, wrinkle<=
br>
.gy. noi nibyti&#39;i lo du&#39;u srana lo mebri .i le rusko cu se vlavelck=
i zoi .gy.<br>
gloomy, sullen .gy .i pe&#39;i zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D0=B8=D1=
=82=D1=8C .ry. drani valsi .iku&#39;i se<br>
vlavelcki zoi .gy. frown .gy. sa&#39;u .i la poi rusko .uikivlacukt. na vas=
ru lo<br>
vlavelcki<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>i pe&#39;i lo satci smuvelcki cu zmadu=
 lo tarmi be lo valsi lo ka vajni</div><div>i pei do finti lo lojbo smuvelc=
ki a lo glico smuvelcki i babo mi&#39;o casnu lo mapti tarmi</div><div><br>=
</div><div>i mu&#39;a=C2=A0zoi .ry. =D1=85=D0=BC=D1=83=D1=80=D1=8B=D0=B9 .r=
y. skicu lo prenu poi simlu lo ka na gleki gi&#39;e ba&#39;e ja&#39;o gasnu=
 lo nu da cinje lo mebri</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</di=
v><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
mu&#39;omi&#39;e .piier.<br>
<span class=3D"gmail-HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
The gostak pelled at the fostin lutt for darfs for her martle plave.<br>
The darfs had smibbed, the lutt was thale, and the pilter had nothing snave=
.<br>
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