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Coi rodo,

The future of the BPFK is currently being discussed in the Members Meeting. 
Instructions on how to get there can be found on the main Lojban google 
group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/ke94gmHa6yQ>. I and 
others have made various proposals, which are now being discussed.

FAQ
Why is your post in English? You do realize this is a Lojban language 
mailing list?
I don't speak Lojban fluently.

Does that mean that you're here to destroy Lojban, add malglico, and 
install your own pet proposals by dictatorial fiat?
fu'e Of course it does. I have come here because I want Lojban to be a 
language only I will enjoy using. I'm attempting to trick you all into 
adopting my proposals so that happens. fu'o xo'o

Seriously? You really want all of that?
Of course not. I do have some proposals I like, but none of them are 
particularly original, and most are straight up copied (with attribution of 
course, should I actually get a chance to propose them) from others who are 
more experienced. I'd like to make CAI part of UI, for instance. I don't 
want to rewrite the language or question its basic grammatical principles. 
Actually, I support backwards compatibility (as a goal, at least) and 
maintaining tradition. I'd just like for there to be some active body where 
such proposals can be considered and adopted, and the BPFK, in its current 
form, is not fulfilling that goal.

What is your actual proposal?
I want to establish an English language RFC process. An RFC, or request for 
comments, is a process where anyone can submit a proposal to create or 
update a standard (in this case, Lojban). The proposal is then open for 
public comment. Finally, a decision is made, usually by a committee, like 
the BPFK. I'd also like to open up membership in the BPFK (or the 
replacement, if it is replaced) to people who aren't fluent speakers. There 
are several people who really want to be involved in the process and can 
probably manage not to break everything (like, for instance, me). Including 
mi'a might perhaps bring in some new perspectives not currently represented 
on the committee. The exact way the RFCs are run would need to be worked 
out, although I have strong opinions on the subject (to use GitHub, for 
one). I would also like to better organize work on the CLL and catch it up 
to the current language standards, among other things. I have some ideas 
for that too, like the BPFK owning the CLL GitHub repository. For more 
details, please join the meeting chat.


Thank you,
mi'e .eris.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Coi rodo,<div><br></div><div>The future of the BPFK is cur=
rently being discussed in the Members Meeting. Instructions on how to get t=
here can be found on the <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic=
/lojban/ke94gmHa6yQ">main Lojban google group</a>. I and others have made v=
arious proposals, which are now being discussed.</div><div><br></div><div>F=
AQ</div><div>Why is your post in English? You do realize this is a Lojban l=
anguage mailing list?</div><div>I don&#39;t speak Lojban fluently.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Does that mean that you&#39;re here to destroy Lojban, add=
 malglico, and install your own pet proposals by dictatorial fiat?</div><di=
v>fu&#39;e Of course it does. I have come here because I want Lojban to be =
a language only I will enjoy using. I&#39;m attempting to trick you all int=
o adopting my proposals so that happens. fu&#39;o xo&#39;o</div><div><br></=
div><div>Seriously? You really want all of that?</div><div>Of course not. I=
 do have some proposals I like, but none of them are particularly original,=
 and most are straight up copied (with attribution of course, should I actu=
ally get a chance to propose them) from others who are more experienced. I&=
#39;d like to make CAI part of UI, for instance. I don&#39;t want to rewrit=
e the language or question its basic grammatical principles. Actually, I su=
pport backwards compatibility (as a goal, at least) and maintaining traditi=
on. I&#39;d just like for there to be some active body where such proposals=
 can be considered and adopted, and the BPFK, in its current form, is not f=
ulfilling that goal.</div><div><br></div><div>What is your actual proposal?=
</div><div>I want to establish an English language RFC process. An RFC, or =
request for comments, is a process where anyone can submit a proposal to cr=
eate or update a standard (in this case, Lojban). The proposal is then open=
 for public comment. Finally, a decision is made, usually by a committee, l=
ike the BPFK. I&#39;d also like to open up membership in the BPFK (or the r=
eplacement, if it is replaced) to people who aren&#39;t fluent speakers. Th=
ere are several people who really want to be involved in the process and ca=
n probably manage not to break everything (like, for instance, me). Includi=
ng mi&#39;a might perhaps bring in some new perspectives not currently repr=
esented on the committee. The exact way the RFCs are run would need to be w=
orked out, although I have strong opinions on the subject (to use GitHub, f=
or one). I would also like to better organize work on the CLL and catch it =
up to the current language standards, among other things. I have some ideas=
 for that too, like the BPFK owning the CLL GitHub repository. For more det=
ails, please join the meeting chat.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div=
>Thank you,</div><div>mi&#39;e .eris.</div></div>

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