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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2019 09:31:56 +0300
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.i xu do djuno le du'u la .lojban. cu pamei le'i bangu be fi le si'o tavla
be'o poi ro cmima be bypyfyky. cu jai se curmi fai le ka tavla fo ke'a

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 07:41 la .eris. <wizkarim@gmail.com> wrote:

> Coi rodo,
>
> I just spent half an hour writing out a long post with lots attitudinals
> and humor and the like, but it appears to have disappeared into the ether,
> so this will be rather brief. There is currently discussion at the LLG
> Members Meeting about what to do with the BPFK. Instructions for how to get
> to that meeting are posted in many places. A summary of my proposal follows.
>
> I want to create an RFC process, whereby anyone could make proposals (in
> English) for changes to Lojban. There would then be public discussion and a
> decision by some body, possibly the BPFK and possibly someone else. I'm not
> some radical who wants to change everything. Almost all of the language
> change proposals that I particularly want done aren't of my creation. For
> instance, I'd like to merge CAI into UI. I also kind of like the NOIhA
> proposal and the indicator ko'oi, among other such changes. I don't want to
> add malglico or ruin everything; I just want somewhere that language change
> could happen (with peer review and at least semi-official adoption, not
> just by adding an experimental cmavo and waiting to see if they catch on
> without any hope of them ever entering the official language). The details
> of the RFC process haven't been determined yet, although I have some strong
> opinions (to use GitHub, for one).
>
> I would also like to open up membership in the BPFK to people who aren't
> fluent. There are some people, like me, who haven't become fluent in Lojban
> yet, but would still like to have a voice in language discussions and can
> still be trusted to participate productively without breaking everything.
> This would mean that discussions would be in English, which is really a
> necessity anyway, since the RFCs would be in English and not everyone
> submitting ideas would be able to speak English.
>
> I'd also like to get documentation, including the CLL, up to date. I
> propose that the BPFK (or its successor) assume responsibility for
> maintaining documentation. There are several people who have expressed
> interest in participating under something like my suggestion, and I expect
> that some of them will also help update documentation if that is part of
> the job.
>
> This is not the original posting of my proposal, and many arguments and
> counterarguments have already been raised. I hope you will join the meeting
> and comment, or become active there if you are currently present but
> inactive.
>
> mi'e .eris.
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">.i xu do djuno le du&#39;u la .lojban. cu pamei le&#39;i =
bangu be fi le si&#39;o tavla be&#39;o poi ro cmima be bypyfyky. cu jai se =
curmi fai le ka tavla fo ke&#39;a</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 07:41 la .eris. &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:wizkarim@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">w=
izkarim@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
 style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Coi rodo,<div><br></div><div>I just spent half an hour writi=
ng out a long post with lots attitudinals and humor and the like, but it ap=
pears to have disappeared into the ether, so this will be rather brief. The=
re is currently discussion at the LLG Members Meeting about what to do with=
 the BPFK. Instructions for how to get to that meeting are posted in many p=
laces. A summary of my proposal follows.</div><div><br></div><div>I want to=
 create an RFC process, whereby anyone could make proposals (in English) fo=
r changes to Lojban. There would then be public discussion and a decision b=
y some body, possibly the BPFK and possibly someone else. I&#39;m not some =
radical who wants to change everything. Almost all of the language change p=
roposals that I particularly want done aren&#39;t of my creation. For insta=
nce, I&#39;d like to merge CAI into UI. I also kind of like the NOIhA propo=
sal and the indicator ko&#39;oi, among other such changes. I don&#39;t want=
 to add malglico or ruin everything; I just want somewhere that language ch=
ange could happen (with peer review and at least semi-official adoption, no=
t just by adding an experimental cmavo and waiting to see if they catch on =
without any hope of them ever entering the official language). The details =
of the RFC process haven&#39;t been determined yet, although I have some st=
rong opinions (to use GitHub, for one).</div><div><br></div><div>I would al=
so like to open up membership in the BPFK to people who aren&#39;t fluent. =
There are some people, like me, who haven&#39;t become fluent in Lojban yet=
, but would still like to have a voice in language discussions and can stil=
l be trusted to participate productively without breaking everything. This =
would mean that discussions would be in English, which is really a necessit=
y anyway, since the RFCs would be in English and not everyone submitting id=
eas would be able to speak English.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;d also l=
ike to get documentation, including the CLL, up to date. I propose that the=
 BPFK (or its successor) assume responsibility for maintaining documentatio=
n. There are several people who have expressed interest in participating un=
der something like my suggestion, and I expect that some of them will also =
help update documentation if that is part of the job.=C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div>This is not the original posting of my proposal, and many argumen=
ts and counterarguments have already been raised. I hope you will join the =
meeting and comment, or become active there if you are currently present bu=
t inactive.</div><div><br></div><div>mi&#39;e .eris.</div></div>

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