From a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Mon Apr 28 04:30:23 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list bpfk-announce); Mon, 28 Apr 2003 04:30:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lmsmtp01.st1.spray.net ([212.78.202.111]) by digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19A6py-0002Ii-00 for bpfk-announce@lojban.org; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 04:30:22 -0700 Received: from oemcomputer (host81-7-55-138.surfport24.v21.co.uk [81.7.55.138]) by lmsmtp01.st1.spray.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB7D71E781 for ; Mon, 28 Apr 2003 13:29:43 +0200 (MEST) From: "And Rosta" To: Subject: [bpfk-announce] Re: HOW-TO: BPFK setup change requests Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 12:29:43 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20030428034449.GC22216@digitalkingdom.org> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 5 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: bpfk-announce-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org Errors-to: bpfk-announce-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-original-sender: a.rosta@lycos.co.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: bpfk-announce@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: bpfk-announce As far as I'm concerned, the issue of how much further work Robin does for the BPFK technology is a matter of negotiation between Robin & Nick. I don't want to demand that Robin does any further work. If I am going to participate in discussions, I need to be able to do it by email, if not on jboske then on some other list. (A bonus would be a nice web-accessible archive of the discussion structured hierarchically by Subject & In-Reply-To. Another bonus would be a set of Elephant-like parliamentary rules governing discussion.) Partly because I have been so busy with other things, I'm not sure what my participation in BPFK is supposed to be. What prompted these messages from me is a recent flurry of email messages from webmaster@lojban.org containing discussion of ka'enai. --And. > -----Original Message----- > From: bpfk-announce-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org > [mailto:bpfk-announce-bounce@chain.digitalkingdom.org]On Behalf Of Robin > Lee Powell > Sent: 28 April 2003 04:45 > To: bpfk-announce@lojban.org; lojban-list@lojban.org > Subject: [bpfk-announce] HOW-TO: BPFK setup change requests > > > Before I even get started, FFS people, BPFK requests do *NOT* belong > on the main list. Try private mail to me or Nick, or > request@lojban.org if you have passed *all* of the below but part > #6 > > Here's a handy-dandy little flowchart explaining how to suggest > changes to the BPFK Infrastructure > > When reading this, bear in mind the the specification for the BPFK > has been available for *MONTHS*, and no-one commented on it (see the > links in #1). So if I sound a teensy bit bitter at being > second-guessed at this late stage, it's because I am > > Bear in mind also that I am doing a *stupendous* amount of > lojban-related work right now, and requests to spend tens of hours > of my time without volunteering to help are not appreciated > > > 1. Does it conform with > http://www.lojban.org/wiki/index.php/Mini-dictionary, as well as any > relevant sections in > http://www.lojban.com/cgi-bin/twiki/view/BPFK/GuidelinesForUsing ? > YES: Continue > NO: Go Stick Your Head In A Pig[1] > > 2. Are you the only person affected by the change AND it will take > more than 5 minutes to implement as far as you can tell? > NO: Continue > YES: Go Stick Your Head In A Pig > > 3. Have you talked to the BPFK captain and gotten his agreement > that this is a Good Idea? > > YES: Continue > NO: Perhaps you should do that > > 4. Does your proposed modification do something that is actually > useful and can't easily be handled some other way (IOW, are you > fixing something that's actually broken)? Examples of things that > do not fit this criteria are offline viewing and spell checking > (both of which can be handled by your favorite word > processor and "Save As Text" > > YES: Continue > NO: Go Stick Your Head In A Pig > > 5. Are at least one of the following sets true: > > A modification for the existing infrastructure already > exists and will do what you want AND you know where it is > and can point the webmaster to it > > Someone in the Lojban community has volunteered to write, > AND has *finished* writing the modification you want AND it > has been tested > > YES: Continue > NO: Well, get to work > > 6. Have you talked to the webmaster and convinced em that the > difficulty involved is worth the effort? > > YES: Great. Now sit back and wait for the webmaster to have > time for this > > NO: Perhaps you should do that. If you don't want to, you are > more than welcome to host it yourself. Failing that, feel free > to Go Stick Your Head In A Pig > > -Robin > > [1]: http://hhgproject.org/entries/shareandenjoy.html > > -- > http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** I'm a *male* Robin > ..i le pamoi velru'e zo'u crepu le plibu taxfu > ..i le remoi velru'e zo'u mo .i le cimoi velru'e zo'u ba'e prali .uisai > http://www.lojban.org/ *** to sa'a cu'u lei pibyta'u cridrnoma toi > > > >