From bpfk-list+bncCKXkyaieBhDqpsvlBBoEPG2FaQ@googlegroups.com Mon Oct 11 02:06:02 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5EKU-0005Pe-NL; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:06:02 -0700 Received: by qyk10 with SMTP id 10sf4051411qyk.16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:received:received :mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oYx0/LNxRfhy1E5kBWvXHJO8eVhdypLUu9dV8lUyzP8=; b=KJOd2uV5f8MKmGsybv05++6kJJrVQWiNJnTJbHGapK3w6l5Ff8ETmHm8VOgfKTsJNp NO6uojQF2/8CcmsfsCV3oPDDqQJpmku9nj27j3/C27UyKSlsDTDHj6ffgl1Qu4uLb5dU ZDA85LV8dBYChpqplZbAS4qAuUN0VNgf8wwis= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=FIuNAScU3PoPjudve53/4IS2cU3HeB2gB4lBcP0dcuto4m9hyVE+UJn+gVEKM4mYbj 9hJa46zChooIaTpVPTQLmMPw6qRnRxyyRMkYcXAS29+e0+GeolvaQwnU7O7eRp6icIe2 Wod9BCEZNxw2meoMRni+F3K5E1qgpPpqD3e/E= Received: by 10.224.215.67 with SMTP id hd3mr263778qab.30.1286787946311; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.224.124.5 with SMTP id s5ls477221qar.3.p; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.189.130 with SMTP id de2mr1054405qab.17.1286787945599; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.189.130 with SMTP id de2mr1054404qab.17.1286787945589; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vw0-f41.google.com (mail-vw0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id 3si3105719qci.14.2010.10.11.02.05.45; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.212.41 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of daniel@brockman.se) client-ip=209.85.212.41; Received: by vws19 with SMTP id 19so1830495vws.0 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.97.5 with SMTP id j5mr1866427vcn.17.1286787945077; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f169.google.com (mail-qy0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m4sm3863695vbp.6.2010.10.11.02.05.41 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so874552qyk.7 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.180.196 with SMTP id bv4mr4341614qab.175.1286787935811; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:05:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.145 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 02:04:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB0B239.50107@lojban.org> <4CB1F3EA.5000608@lojban.org> <4CB20ADF.6050500@lojban.org> <4CB2335F.7000606@lojban.org> <4CB253D0.1020806@lojban.org> From: Daniel Brockman Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 11:04:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: daniel@brockman.se X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.212.41 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of daniel@brockman.se) smtp.mail=daniel@brockman.se Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I consider myself a pretty pedantic {i}-user, but even I only start with {i} if the first thing I'm saying is a bridi. I don't start with {i} if the first thing I'm saying is, e.g., a UI. When I start with a UI, it sort of attaches to my whole text. It definitely does not attach to the end of some other text. So I agree with xorxes: we cannot assume a single text. It simply wouldn't work. (On the other hand, I think everything that is allowed at the beginning of a text should be allowed after {i}: A: ie pei ui pei broda B: ja'ai i nai And so on. I think xorxes would agree.) When I start with a bare sumti, it can mean anything involving that sumti, including that I'm continuing someone's sentence. I still think the explicit marker cmavo would be useful. I'm not sure how to express explicit non-continuation, though. Maybe the explicit marker has a *required* NAI following it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. 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