From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRCwgc7lBBoEVTD0Og@googlegroups.com Mon Oct 11 14:25:25 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5Prx-0003kV-T9; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:25 -0700 Received: by fxm16 with SMTP id 16sf274332fxm.16 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1s8/sKoC8Rk457xNb+2UwewPW6FSwl4v9aGcgxo0PZw=; b=qR1duopa7CRJ4S2NlNibqB4nEZQLMzYDZFv8AGs+hd8TF9Fo6saYWlg2AWOUBIK7p2 BNRkz8tzUJZ+HqqE3DZxfwN2xErN7iSyc6CYf1JNEYA7ebZlivVFKZkYthi2etlVP6E3 2bxbSzoDS7zk6p+Ez8TT2nhQB8mcamMatLGsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=4J4MS50GGQ22yufjTfALk4NDqLwLzxu4xFrA8h3uOdeojAdxxG01t3JDzrUPrAeZO1 OKz2YVx45CFPEWE/9WCwMZhLOZTa5gNmrJWQMPD8hhcbD8i3pLqhU0bQC2wlzkifEYRn o7+ww+VQZGaJ8uw0Hc3TsCreezXuuq9W3pjbo= Received: by 10.223.91.81 with SMTP id l17mr98312fam.25.1286832304790; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.223.32.142 with SMTP id c14ls1025587fad.2.p; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.119.77 with SMTP id y13mr473984faq.1.1286832304295; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.119.77 with SMTP id y13mr473982faq.1.1286832304274; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f45.google.com (mail-fx0-f45.google.com [209.85.161.45]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d11si1788576fan.4.2010.10.11.14.25.03; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.45 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.161.45; Received: by mail-fx0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 9so721485fxm.18 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.132.132 with SMTP id 4mr426895hbr.47.1286832302994; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.239.162.66 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB0B239.50107@lojban.org> <4CB1F3EA.5000608@lojban.org> <4CB20ADF.6050500@lojban.org> <4CB2335F.7000606@lojban.org> <4CB253D0.1020806@lojban.org> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 18:25:02 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.45 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > Whether or not to begin an utterance with {.i} was never the point of > discussion. Whether or not {.i} is required for an utterance to be > grammatical was never the point of the discussion. I am not, was not, and > will not be making any "proposal" to change the grammar of Lojban to require > {.i} in such cases as it is currently optional. > > The POINT of the discussion is, whether an utterance from a new speaker is a > new "text" or not. If by "text" you mean "the chunk of input you feed to the parser to check for grammaticality", then yes, normally an utterance from a new speaker is a new "text" (there may be rare exceptions). If by "text" you mean something else. I don't know, it depends what you mean by it. What do you mean by "text"? mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.