From bpfk-list+bncCKXkyaieBhCr3NPlBBoE5wlE6w@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 12 16:24:45 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5oD1-0000le-RB; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:44 -0700 Received: by qwk4 with SMTP id 4sf6149190qwk.16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:received:received :mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hewZClZS2Itc4J296FmAlc2KPlM0Yn0r2csLyNq7fMw=; b=ZBGfr0IayBQHO6mewE+Ld2f9PAwCmLzTtyENEC1D+bvt6bGl0AFTIaNb+1HIf+cUxf +5QhIKuxmMMtzZUoHQkoW/9KCCExGGls6a7BSOOcPraMmCwjHx91NrFzA+U6+bJANmIh hRua8QOVk02Ly5WxkbRtz5mtG759gG0WvSOFI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=6anJGPfMmVvmp0PMcil5huMMYqnIU1BWxG1V1/6g13Eq9iHbZNY05kcpE8mkg5eghv Yi5sFNe157a+fuXIuELktLwKNEKyD0DfeswOynB3OESxrzWWEeUe51lCiPssofZEQlnf uiR/ZJIguEwUO4KXz7fyciczK4ydCvTa/zJjg= Received: by 10.229.43.73 with SMTP id v9mr467865qce.31.1286925867637; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.229.207.84 with SMTP id fx20ls158715qcb.0.p; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.182.73 with SMTP id cb9mr1432169qcb.26.1286925867107; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.182.73 with SMTP id cb9mr1432168qcb.26.1286925867073; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com (mail-qy0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m5si4420698qcu.0.2010.10.12.16.24.26; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.85.216.179 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of daniel@brockman.se) client-ip=209.85.216.179; Received: by mail-qy0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 36so2855073qyk.3 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.98.84 with SMTP id p20mr6843472qcn.149.1286925866755; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qy0-f178.google.com (mail-qy0-f178.google.com [209.85.216.178]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nb14sm6724314qcb.12.2010.10.12.16.24.24 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so944044qyk.9 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.80.194 with SMTP id u2mr6878129qck.49.1286925863955; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:24:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.79.145 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:23:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB2335F.7000606@lojban.org> <4CB253D0.1020806@lojban.org> <4CB3576C.2000009@lojban.org> <4CB48045.9050503@lojban.org> <4CB4A74F.9040003@lojban.org> From: Daniel Brockman Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 01:23:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: daniel@brockman.se X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.85.216.179 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of daniel@brockman.se) smtp.mail=daniel@brockman.se Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lojban has formalized even hesitation, for god's sake, so why couldn't it formalize conversations? If we didn't have {i}, this would be a description of Lojban: Each person says one "sentence". Each "sentence" is fed to the parser, which doesn't care about whether any other "sentences" are being said, in what order, etc. Pragmatics dictate that the sentences form a "conversation", and the "conversation" may even be divided into "texts", which are sequences of sentences from one speaker that together communicate a coherent "message". Et cetera. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.