From bpfk-list+bncCMHEmaCOBhDzndTlBBoEtw-DKQ@googlegroups.com Tue Oct 12 18:44:34 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P5qON-0004o8-Kf; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:34 -0700 Received: by yxk30 with SMTP id 30sf4753007yxk.16 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=clDKPqXq6QpVnPHuNt+jWOE86z5+TS+tVwKwj/cabKY=; b=iRtJYLSij6pSt2TFaHttEZoLLltBXGIkFeYWhh9AQai68IE+fbGUBQ1xU8xacuSLt6 TEbdFX3EkNL3h9WnJzpUgYCo88OTr/h2B4NR9bqBnqYCwnwfxBbe51ER2dYiPun7Bc3Z h7fnw/aeB82t3byBysWX0Q4q2FHFogE+XTJh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=Dtjli1gpEaPC/tixLSZqr8zYJ2gZm4ZCgjTpqJuxz6hmJy0+H6Ethf0YzYAC1RRNLG m8/k6I9xNWOm9wSB6waXkuG6B4txyhhl02EkjSyLf9UycuVlCs4si/PtaHky3rq98lCQ 0TiDXlp8hYrLU3wWvYvdlq/K3mqToM2RU5PLw= Received: by 10.90.119.18 with SMTP id r18mr61463agc.41.1286934259809; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:19 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.112.41 with SMTP id u41ls365022ibp.1.p; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.11 with SMTP id bc11mr2542747ibb.13.1286934259473; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.176.11 with SMTP id bc11mr2542745ibb.13.1286934259423; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f182.google.com (mail-iw0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si5212081ibq.5.2010.10.12.18.44.18; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.182; Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so8529954iwn.41 for ; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.8.18 with SMTP id g18mr3860398icg.34.1286934258278; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.68 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:44:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB2335F.7000606@lojban.org> <4CB253D0.1020806@lojban.org> <4CB3576C.2000009@lojban.org> <4CB48045.9050503@lojban.org> <4CB4A74F.9040003@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:44:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504501616650616e049275bb07 --00504501616650616e049275bb07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/10/12 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Daniel Brockman > wrote: > > Okay, for the sake of argument, if we treat this > > > > A: do klama ma > > B: lo zarci > > > > as an informal Lojban meta-textual object, while at the same > > time declare this to be a well-defined Lojban "conversation", > > > > do klama ma fa'ai lo zarci > > > > then what do we do about this? > > > > la xorxes cu cusku lu do klama ma fa'ai lo zarci > > > > That's one "conversation", but is it one or two "texts"? > > That will depend on whether "lu" can quote whole conversations or just > texts, like now. If just texts, then the elidable "li'u" will > automatically be inserted before "fa'ai". > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > As far as I'm concerned, that's just a really good reason to never elide {li'u}, which both .xorxes. and I frown upon. --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den. --00504501616650616e049275bb07 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2010/10/12 Jorge Llamb=EDas &l= t;jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Daniel Brockman <daniel@brockman.se> wrote:
> Okay, for the sake of argument, if we treat this
>
> =A0 =A0A: do klama ma
> =A0 =A0B: lo zarci
>
> as an informal Lojban meta-textual object, while at the same
> time declare this to be a well-defined Lojban "conversation"= ,
>
> =A0 =A0do klama ma fa'ai lo zarci
>
> then what do we do about this?
>
> =A0 la xorxes cu cusku lu do klama ma fa'ai lo zarci
>
> That's one "conversation", but is it one or two "te= xts"?

That will depend on whether "lu" can quote whole conversati= ons or just
texts, like now. If just texts, then the elidable "li'u" will=
automatically be inserted before "fa'ai".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

As far a= s I'm concerned, that's just a really good reason to never elide {l= i'u}, which both .xorxes. and I frown upon.
=A0
-- mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe l= o pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Si= de! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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