From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDBotjlBBoEUuYUIQ@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 13 13:06:42 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P67ax-000537-Bn; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:42 -0700 Received: by wye20 with SMTP id 20sf1029510wye.16 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=eL/OesyOFdkvnwEBK5Vjrh3mHLmqQxOkEY25zPJIcik=; b=xYtPVpXGsWbNLXqha2AKf3SPd2Tt2VTdYqM7kcR/jmqHex2E30qrM4Ke1rUR+F2SCv OkfUbYQ/4TFqglab2V+A1tORxV+REHC1ZSaCQ6r7uhgzV0RRt+haAZS3CiUnU2vVfSOl SJHathQxEUpDfOSqnuXYfl+uehbRLiGpBzdHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=IvFyKI3sbWLPuxaF8HYv3CwsJOCjfah0H87snKnMrF7u0AeJfa5+ZnbOggnpdotbrx zeI5hx1B7s+RJxDyZ7HB+zRlnD1I3PUkfNdIm37PerUOKQ39Uf0zn7zXQwu5jAbkDVaA 5V5qNq8yKEW8Kurbn4nWqJC6oaBKkae+ZxPfY= Received: by 10.216.237.35 with SMTP id x35mr937759weq.20.1287000385781; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.213.1 with SMTP id z1ls662048weo.1.p; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.20.141 with SMTP id p13mr29652wep.11.1287000384593; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.20.141 with SMTP id p13mr29651wep.11.1287000384568; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f175.google.com (mail-wy0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id r4si3108963wec.6.2010.10.13.13.06.23; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.175; Received: by wyb40 with SMTP id 40so1794495wyb.20 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.127.84 with SMTP id f20mr9091148wbs.3.1287000374897; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:06:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <70c95ba0-9cc9-4639-8e30-5e486d25cf2b@q3g2000pra.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:06:14 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] O HAI I FIXT UR LODGEBANZ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Adam Lopresto wrote: > So here are the use cases I can think of. If there are others, let me know. > 1) "Frank is more blue than Bob." (la .frank. la .bab. zmadu lo > ce'u blanu) > 2) "The length of the car is 3 meters." (lo lo karce cu clani > cu mitre li ci) > 3) "The number of things John invented amazes me." (mi manci lo > la .djan. finti ) > So how do we resolve all of these? This is how I would say those: (1) la .frank. la .bab. cu zmadu lo ka [ce'u] blanu (2) lo karce cu mitre li ci lo ka [ce'u] clani (3) mi manci lo du'u la .djan. cu finti xo kau da > For a while, I've been using {ni} as > though it meant {su'u se la'u ma kau}, which seems to cover 1 and 2 (since > {su'u} could take a {ce'u} or not), but seems sloppy. I think I only use "ni" for "ka se la'u ma kau", so in none of the above examples, although arguably it could be used in (1). I don't think I would use "ce'u" in (3). It might make sense if the place structure of "manci" was "x1 is amazed at x2 due to its property x3", in which case the "ce'u" of property x3 is where the x2 would fall, but not as it is. > For 3, I'd have to use > something like {su'u la .djan. ciska xo kau da} (possibly with something > other than {su'u}), which may or may not be good. That's what I would do. > Can we at least agree that all three of these need to be representable > somehow, but that they are not the same? I agree (1) and (3) are different. I don't think the length of the car is much different from the blueness of Frank and Bob, though. (And I wouldn't say that the length of the car is three meters in length. Properties don't really have length.) mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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