From bpfk-list+bncCK30vq5WEN6e3eUEGgSGohkG@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 11:44:02 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SmQ-0008Vm-8p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:44:02 -0700 Received: by pxi5 with SMTP id 5sf2860416pxi.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; bh=peNmUjHbGAIXk7Qh3f07eGCBi65m18bX0B/SizfzydY=; b=JmcUL2CwKXPbIQH1KK6eneyeWH8z8RcpfWPeSMLgjIHeZfR5hXEESJYRgkY6U5+zqH Gs59opVMgQ/LAi1RbrnSMmsKh0SQ4baa9FVMxkVD92ol1IpCQr8FvyIXRFP3RvbZ0rEC 9ANqRKzerDitmyKLCTRxReelOeZ/OLndbHIYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition; b=6waDXp289V1Si4VhtNkbWBk84kLgyj886XhZ+J+B896yaKW/SA+fUm+KqSUbPoFjxj siHiKyZ+PVa6uy0IhddN4BG3MyJJiU2xttl1t5Gh1utIsHAPfxwfboeGwQ06ujO7dvWH blmXNXxGkubqnid+sHHKW/rcA2yCHPUo0fUaI= Received: by 10.142.152.28 with SMTP id z28mr265878wfd.63.1287081822989; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.142.2.41 with SMTP id 41ls104551wfb.0.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.171.17 with SMTP id t17mr5034094wfe.10.1287081822714; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.171.17 with SMTP id t17mr5034092wfe.10.1287081822692; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id s21si11867512wff.0.2010.10.14.11.43.42; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6SmE-0008Vc-78 for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:43:42 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] What I'm going to do. Message-ID: <20101014184342.GY24066@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com References: <20101014071951.GU24066@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:38:47AM -0700, Theodore Reed wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 00:19, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > > OK, so. The urge to just Go Fix Shit has been growing in me. I > > think there's actually not all that much to do if I can get people > > in a room for concentrated time to work on it. > > > > So, here's what's going to happen. > > > > 1. Lindar is working on examples, basic cleanup, and search of past > > contention for everything. > > > > 2. I have diffs for the CLL; I will go through them, possibly with > > others, and approve the result as the new CLL. > > > > 3. Possibly in parallel, somebody converts the current CLL in git > > to docbook. > > > > 4. I, some other bay area Lojbanists, and a *very* few people via > > voice chat, sit down for serious, concentrated sessions of Fixing > > Shit. The results I want here look, in my head, a lot like what Bob > > originally asked for, actually. To wit: > > > > - a series of numbered alternative proposals; there might be three > > {ni} proposals, for example. Somewhere (I'm thinking in a setup > > like shapado.com, but suggestions *very* welcome here) is a > > repository of the proposals *and the justifications for each > > option*. Each proposal is associated with CLL changes and word > > definitons. > > We could do these as branches in git, maybe? It's not just going to be CLL changes; it's going to be word list stuff and commentary and so on. The ideal is having a jvs2 that can handle checkpoints/versioning, and then the proposal just becomes "see git #### in CLL repo ; see jvs2 checkpoint ### ; here's my justification for this proposal". See http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Dictionary for more commentary on the pipe dream that is jvs2. Regardless, though, I want people to be able to read/print/whatever a single CLL with all the proposals in it, so they can see how they work together (or don't). The easier we can make it for people to vote, the more votes we'll get. -Robin -- http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.