From bpfk-list+bncCMHEmaCOBhDAvd_lBBoExSbSZQ@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 21:55:45 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6cKT-0007dU-Lm; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:44 -0700 Received: by gyh3 with SMTP id 3sf451934gyh.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=98/PAVGR0bntwRQbiShApYip2waqQt+/iLVQTGlqwQE=; b=meN/2VX2/VAln5M9X3fkL2xrKiy6IlSHO5c1MMLGXkQiO4zXw5HwD3R2WSbTnLDS9l Re5TTE2qT5ByYtADP0b7n4opRekTypspnAkOSZe7nCkDm/NaXpkTvwfB7hJQSWme4Ar9 +TCaTQK0JOL/by9ax3tg1wFq3qKXvA6gcWlWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=PPXReGPXXWz10/ZAAIZd29bMx+IzQO0CL2Tp9x7YSh0IV5FFSOiqt42EI7kUswigYk l+QYSkjp6DS22tvXT4APZWNFHRebAyO9Uq6n26LuBJy7ROWvoGvxaLzCXasrLgb8X+tg prY1lWksuw0DMY+4sKJn0O5QojQ7w1otjw6Ro= Received: by 10.151.3.13 with SMTP id f13mr156295ybi.37.1287118528294; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.180.73 with SMTP id bt9ls2055449ibb.0.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.77 with SMTP id o13mr86516ibd.3.1287118527573; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.77 with SMTP id o13mr86514ibd.3.1287118527511; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f170.google.com (mail-iw0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j25si2989352ibb.0.2010.10.14.21.55.26; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.170; Received: by iwn37 with SMTP id 37so873179iwn.1 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.33.205 with SMTP id i13mr146126ibd.59.1287118523970; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.68 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 21:55:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101015045108.GC8367@nvg.org> References: <20101014221058.GC15812@digitalkingdom.org> <20101015045108.GC8367@nvg.org> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:55:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work - getting it done. From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221534c94f67b5b30492a0a20e --00221534c94f67b5b30492a0a20e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote= : > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:44:40PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > > I would like to at this time seek approval for removing the following > > entries from the BPFK Section: > > Tense< > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Tense>pa= ge: > > > > {baba}=B9 > > {bapu}=B9 > > {puba}=B9 > > {pupu}=B9 > > > > {baca'a}=B2 > > {caca'a}=B2 > > {cajeba}=B2 > > {puca'a}=B2 > > {pujeba}=B2 > > {pujeca}=B2 > > {puza}=B2 > > {puze'a}=B2 > > {puze'i}=B2 > > {puze'u}=B2 > > {puzi}=B2 > > {puzu}=B2 > > > > =B9 Official meaning differs from usage, as well as being non-intuitive= . > > =B2 Meaning is obvious given meaning of components and therefore does n= ot > need > > it's own entry. > > Agreed, provided that the entries for selma'o JA be updated to accurately > reflect their tense-coordinating function. They do not currently do so, s= ee > http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Logical+= Connectives > > -- > Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ > Public Notice as Required by Law: Any Use of This Product, in Any > Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount of Disorder in the > Universe. Although No Liability Is Implied Herein, the Consumer Is > Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death of the > Universe. --Susan Hewitt and Edward Subitzky > > On it. Would providing examples of their use in this regard be enough, or d= o you mean mentioning this use in the definition, or both? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. 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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Arnt Richard J= ohansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:44:40PM -0600, Jonathan Jones = wrote:

> I would like to at this time seek approval for removing the following<= br> > entries from the BPFK Section:
> Tense<http://www.lojban.org/tiki/ti= ki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Tense>page:
>
> {baba}=B9
> {bapu}=B9
> {puba}=B9
> {pupu}=B9
>
> {baca'a}=B2
> {caca'a}=B2
> {cajeba}=B2
> {puca'a}=B2
> {pujeba}=B2
> {pujeca}=B2
> {puza}=B2
> {puze'a}=B2
> {puze'i}=B2
> {puze'u}=B2
> {puzi}=B2
> {puzu}=B2
>
> =B9 Official meaning differs from usage, as well as being non-intuitiv= e.
> =B2 Meaning is obvious given meaning of components and therefore does = not need
> it's own entry.

Agreed, provided that the entries for selma'o JA be updated to ac= curately reflect their tense-coordinating function. They do not currently d= o so, see http://www.lojban.org/tik= i/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Logical+Connectives

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Universe. =A0Although No Liability Is Implied Herein, the Consumer Is
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Universe. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --Susan Hewit= t and Edward Subitzky


On it. Would providing examples of their use i= n this regard be enough, or do you mean mentioning this use in the definiti= on, or both?

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.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi= patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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