From bpfk-list+bncCMHEmaCOBhDrv9_lBBoEsWY6WA@googlegroups.com Thu Oct 14 22:00:43 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P6cPI-0007v1-BQ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:43 -0700 Received: by gyh3 with SMTP id 3sf454466gyh.16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ur7dbUb15MoXnCNtOYBnIK67PdXyNdKmnFKebubTJ7M=; b=Cr1ry6+fpImO4Zr9F5r1rBzg7t9EdpomUl+MF+X+UrCO0mNzf9nCq23WWRiLyuKKOr EXELaHINF7qHRrQupP1aUiEX3nE3lIo+4c8kaQXNwYzgnnff875cQrO2WttOe2p9/ZqV Xe4B/ka8bNpcZ0RWQMj0sgpMg+y5FeS2GGcyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=ydPt/MRzm20SrJHqip4cH+Lu5/mhGQ5y5uqkKmLR2M1PPkGiWxKHA0VYzwel42Ljoi tPUPFEzG6U2Unv5YZ/5S/QOvkNEFBO4edJpmFIfwITXaCQxmjAjm80Pe+huyoH8KCfeb Aq4l8mwQXVF+MntERblT7UurLWn+mEE+rhfH8= Received: by 10.150.73.26 with SMTP id v26mr1041320yba.47.1287118827676; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.123.203 with SMTP id q11ls2059360ibr.2.p; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.77 with SMTP id o13mr88020ibd.3.1287118823885; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.77 with SMTP id o13mr88019ibd.3.1287118823838; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com (mail-iw0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id j25si2991895ibb.4.2010.10.14.22.00.22; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.169; Received: by mail-iw0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 1so596637iwn.14 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.170.21 with SMTP id b21mr132327ibz.122.1287118822056; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.68 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 2010 22:00:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20101014221058.GC15812@digitalkingdom.org> <20101015045108.GC8367@nvg.org> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:00:22 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work - getting it done. From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=005045029bef2c222b0492a0b4c7 --005045029bef2c222b0492a0b4c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen wrot= e: > >> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:44:40PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >> > I would like to at this time seek approval for removing the following >> > entries from the BPFK Section: >> > Tense< >> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Tense >> >page: >> > >> > {baba}=B9 >> > {bapu}=B9 >> > {puba}=B9 >> > {pupu}=B9 >> > >> > {baca'a}=B2 >> > {caca'a}=B2 >> > {cajeba}=B2 >> > {puca'a}=B2 >> > {pujeba}=B2 >> > {pujeca}=B2 >> > {puza}=B2 >> > {puze'a}=B2 >> > {puze'i}=B2 >> > {puze'u}=B2 >> > {puzi}=B2 >> > {puzu}=B2 >> > >> > =B9 Official meaning differs from usage, as well as being non-intuitiv= e. >> > =B2 Meaning is obvious given meaning of components and therefore does = not >> need >> > it's own entry. >> >> Agreed, provided that the entries for selma'o JA be updated to accuratel= y >> reflect their tense-coordinating function. They do not currently do so, = see >> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Logical= +Connectives >> >> -- >> Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ >> Public Notice as Required by Law: Any Use of This Product, in Any >> Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount of Disorder in the >> Universe. Although No Liability Is Implied Herein, the Consumer Is >> Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death of the >> Universe. --Susan Hewitt and Edward Subitzky >> >> > On it. Would providing examples of their use in this regard be enough, or > do you mean mentioning this use in the definition, or both? > Also, are you referring to all JA, or only je specifically, since only je i= s used in the above? --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Jonath= an Jones <eyeonus= @gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14= , 2010 at 10:51 PM, Arnt Richard Johansen <arj@nvg.org> wrote:
=
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 07:44:40PM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:

> I would like to at this time seek approval for removing the following<= br> > entries from the BPFK Section:
> Tense<http://www.lojban.org/tiki/ti= ki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Tense>page:
>
> {baba}=B9
> {bapu}=B9
> {puba}=B9
> {pupu}=B9
>
> {baca'a}=B2
> {caca'a}=B2
> {cajeba}=B2
> {puca'a}=B2
> {pujeba}=B2
> {pujeca}=B2
> {puza}=B2
> {puze'a}=B2
> {puze'i}=B2
> {puze'u}=B2
> {puzi}=B2
> {puzu}=B2
>
> =B9 Official meaning differs from usage, as well as being non-intuitiv= e.
> =B2 Meaning is obvious given meaning of components and therefore does = not need
> it's own entry.

Agreed, provided that the entries for selma'o JA be updated to ac= curately reflect their tense-coordinating function. They do not currently d= o so, see http://www.lojban.org/tik= i/tiki-index.php?page=3DBPFK+Section%3A+Logical+Connectives

--
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Public Notice as Required by Law: Any Use of This Product, in Any
Manner Whatsoever, Will Increase the Amount of Disorder in the
Universe. =A0Although No Liability Is Implied Herein, the Consumer Is
Warned That This Process Will Ultimately Lead to the Heat Death of the
Universe. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --Susan Hewit= t and Edward Subitzky


On it. Would providing examples of= their use in this regard be enough, or do you mean mentioning this use in = the definition, or both?

Also, are = you referring to all JA, or only je specifically, since only je is used in = the above?

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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