From bpfk-list+bncCK30vq5WEPH7vuUEGgTrcVTw@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 17:57:36 2010 Received: from mail-pz0-f61.google.com ([209.85.210.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Nki-0006u3-Cn; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:36 -0700 Received: by pzk7 with SMTP id 7sf932757pzk.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4Qj3AfHfMRkHuuSz/LkDwmZsmD4K7peng2ZiWIED/xQ=; b=Y46c/adkAtcQUDs6FKZo/Mjj3mNOL9AmxbfV/QEWWQ2cRutRqwcSyLxe1fu2VlAOHT b6ka6D9rCDSDFCYSn93hv/eXxeURjvjgpEXkTpVmOgtDNH8l/6/+aJbTz6hrb3jKOGrz Ooi4DmZb2WwwF+rHG4JKEoRzB3TlmfqGa4ysM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=SXdv1PIsw8sb7RMfmf908/uC/5XcrlnD+CJ5dTVpaK5Tnvagu/ge/rcmTIloCcJHI6 xOmgBY16PwXJIEixChJdqF3kFiorddsPTUk2vkCMD1moqNecZHDO9vSZi8t/NN/J6OOH VuPnCwMEFsyVDFnXOT1W7Y876+4q29eXh2Bhk= Received: by 10.115.101.24 with SMTP id d24mr311932wam.21.1286585841065; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:21 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.115.66.21 with SMTP id t21ls1444728wak.2.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.14.6 with SMTP id r6mr902769wai.7.1286585840249; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.14.6 with SMTP id r6mr902768wai.7.1286585840228; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id f17si1917301waf.7.2010.10.08.17.57.20; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4NkV-0006tv-QU for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 17:57:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 17:57:19 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work Message-ID: <20101009005719.GM20458@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com References: <20101009004010.GL20458@digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 09:48:55PM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > Here's a "real" one then: >=20 > ienai .i nanca li re po'o heh. Unhelpful. > (Although I fail to see how my example is any less real just > because it doesn't come from the corpus. Hopefully you are not > saying that everything in the corpus is good Lojban either.) Oh, I don't care if it comes from the corpus; I care that it resulted from trying to express something for its own sake, rather than trying to come up with an example for BPFK purposes. It's too easy to delude yourself about how the language works if you stick to artificial (in that sense) exaomples. -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.