From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDZ0ublBBoEWIZUhg@googlegroups.com Sat Oct 16 06:32:25 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P76s1-00008i-Rn; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:25 -0700 Received: by wyb39 with SMTP id 39sf973139wyb.16 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=oP6b237opcwTP7qQxlrnMelhqpUFADTuEvoIAhF+nyA=; b=U2u4oPyMnVjODUVtHvvkSAdrmgz/Xpf/EpbyiVmWH3n45x+1xBsW2BKAjr0gb/WYXT Rau/a3aaAx1XlBjO1DmgoOF9JDRgm/JqlV8jbuBoig0/Dw8ML8/V38g60/7/k+6Q8CMU QVl1iamDx9PX+CZZqNYofBOhi0iIFTaBoQksI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=tyDt09vSebdI9RcTtTWFZA7qwSBId3eCTDzeY7S9QVreK71FrZ3+8HHm/CZcm9lXsF v8VOWLUJP/z/v7OsxUE+I6qxh8cTLncS+qy1Im5dKvEqFb6jWWnmMxfz1wjtYvdWFRAd ZImNNhj2p585Oay/gPZa2uO3NhRdiEg/yxtiQ= Received: by 10.216.237.212 with SMTP id y62mr156564weq.17.1287235929625; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.3.19 with SMTP id 19ls1560730wbl.3.p; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.29.217 with SMTP id r25mr100895wbc.6.1287235928736; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.29.217 with SMTP id r25mr100894wbc.6.1287235928702; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wy0-f171.google.com (mail-wy0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id h9si1340572wbe.4.2010.10.16.06.32.07; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.171; Received: by mail-wy0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 21so1875466wya.2 for ; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.153.11 with SMTP id i11mr2276769wbw.150.1287234605739; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:10:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4CB90A9A.3050302@gmail.com> References: <70c95ba0-9cc9-4639-8e30-5e486d25cf2b@q3g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <9572835c-55f6-4644-be9b-dd9601570d8d@m35g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <4CB90A9A.3050302@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:10:05 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] Re: O HAI I FIXT UR LODGEBANZ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.171 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM, And Rosta wrote: > > How does Lojban distinguishthe following? > "I know who she knows that he likes"= "I know that(WH)x she knows that he > likes x" > "I know that she knows who he likes"? = "I know that she knows that(WH)x he > likes x" > -- these differ wrt the scope of the WH complementizer. I would say they are: mi djuno lo du'u ma kau goi ko'a zo'u ko'e djuno lo du'u ko'i nelci ko'a mi djuno lo du'u ko'e djuno lo du'u ko'i nelci ma kau The second one being equivalent to expanded form: mi djuno lo du'u ko'e djuno lo du'u ma kau goi ko'a zo'u ko'i nelci ko'a mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-list?hl=en.