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spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.240.59 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 08:32:46PM -0400, Robert LeChevalier wrote: >=20 >>So make them match the formula in the book (which requires >>removing the "32500 -" and adjusting other signs to exactly match >>the formula, and then using a calculator to get the correct total >>for the low-scoring algorithm; I think only 12.3 has the correct >>total for the stated formula, if my head-calculator is working and >>I flipped the right signs.) >=20 >=20 > Actually, *all* the totals shown match the given algorithm, unless > I'm *very* confused. I think I meant that the totals did not match the left side of the equation= . > Here's what I have currently: >=20 >

The score is then:

> 
>       (1000 * L) - (500 * A) + (100 * H) - (10 * R) - V
>
>

In case of ties, there is no preference. This should be rare. Note tha= t the algorithm essentially encodes a hierarchy of priorities: short words = are preferred (counting apostrophes as half a letter), then words with fewe= r hyphens, words with more pleasing rafsi (this judgment is subjective), an= d finally words with more vowels are chosen. Each decision principle is app= lied in turn if the ones before it have failed to choose; it is possible th= at a lower-ranked principle might dominate a higher-ranked one if it is ten= times better than the alternative.

>

Here are some lujvo with their scores (not necessarily the lowest scor= ing forms for these lujvo, nor even necessarily sensible lujvo):

> 
> 12.1)  zbasai
>        zba + sai
>        (1000 * 6) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 0) - (10 * 15) - 3
>        =3D 5847
>=20
> 12.2)  nunynau
>        nun + y + nau
>        (1000 * 7) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 13) - 3
>        =3D 6967
>=20
> 12.3)  sairzbata'u
>        sai + r + zba + ta'u
>        (1000 * 11) - (500 * 1) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 21) - 5
>        =3D 10385
>=20
> 12.4)  zbazbasysarji
>        zba + zbas + y + sarji
>        (1000 * 13) - (500 * 0) + (100 * 1) - (10 * 12) - 4
>        =3D 12976
>
Looks fine to me. But then my proofreading failure let the last one get by= . lojbab --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.