From bpfk-list+bncCIOnzJa3CxDh96DmBBoEy8Tjcw@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 27 07:49:24 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PB7JW-0006kx-0l; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:24 -0700 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf386958wwb.16 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:received:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-nvg-mailscanner-information:x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=k3y8QWIvZfaDAa4zvkagKWIy9ihApJBnQARVQ+LLiQk=; b=PRpmn5e50nc5FxtpIfRyTfthAhGmF1KDHttBpdnyFFNqtS/jhSzcMygt9Yx1Sl91YF x6zg38ZYkJzaZuq5Y6EcFzcvm21hHsvL7i1s77SXYqcML8rGIBd8c2k5mxIUynRc8Coe 7HL/nuKEGRwc1WqSsOw45ml/6EI6EXPfm+CKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-nvg-mailscanner-information :x-nvg-mailscanner:x-mailscanner-from:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding; b=GjxXk5/RK8iaKk9r/il9EMaQADgryXARQQVIXfNHDjUiaMjA1CWUkFUbg0ZhhQj7eK /Zz7Xt24rrvlI8waQRXMwfU3PZkpRxfiibnONmsiBNIN3W4rUGla/H/P0SVfwF0s6Ks+ KumX2ZR+IEaCfMlUvEjaSi1S5TRJXrn6S3HRc= Received: by 10.216.54.146 with SMTP id i18mr110408wec.21.1288190945616; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.35.221 with SMTP id u69ls76249eea.7.p; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.120.200 with SMTP id p48mr906943eeh.13.1288190944428; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.120.200 with SMTP id p48mr906942eeh.13.1288190944415; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.67]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id t3si4454840eeh.3.2010.10.27.07.49.04; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) client-ip=129.241.210.67; Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no [IPv6:2001:700:300:2000:92e6:baff:fe68:dd1c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68B494787 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:48:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (arj@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id o9REmq8e012764 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:48:52 +0200 Received: (from arj@localhost) by sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id o9REmqdm012763 for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:48:52 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:48:52 +0200 From: Arnt Richard Johansen To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] CLL errata check: lujvo scoring Message-ID: <20101027144852.GQ8367@nvg.org> References: <20101026061117.GJ1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063822.GK1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063932.GL1105@digitalkingdom.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20101026134742.01f61b78@cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.ntnu.no X-Original-Sender: arj@nvg.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of arj@nvg.ntnu.no designates 129.241.210.67 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=arj@nvg.ntnu.no Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:03:50AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > The algorithm doesn't take consonant clusters into account, so I'm not > sure how often it gives a choice that people find preferable. It > prefers "kixsku" to "ki'asku" for example, just because it's slightly > shorter, even though it has a "difficult" consonant cluster. Are we > going to devise a better algorithm? I think it would be better to give > priority to syllable structure rather than just letter count. It might be fun and instructive for some of the computer guys to come up wi= th a machine learning algorithm that optimises the lujvo scoring algorithm = to reflect what Lojbanists actually like. (Perhaps using published texts as= a basis rather than asking them to choose between different versions of th= e same lujvo.) --=20 Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ The problem is, witchcraft is not fantasy; it is a sinful reality in our world. --christiananswers.net --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. 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