From bpfk-list+bncCK30vq5WEIenoeYEGgS1CaOA@googlegroups.com Wed Oct 27 09:30:23 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PB8tF-0005sM-1g; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:30:23 -0700 Received: by yxe42 with SMTP id 42sf1378095yxe.16 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TLqpLmybh/ogXfEL5lgKOiX9JLSfkWRVq0YdXl2W3yU=; b=t+7b/9B6tSNa4P0TUu3Wc2ZENdmz5N3pSPDzuB6ElT/FNtgiZrOXFrZBqpztIl/Kb4 HiX+yx+f/b8ILfYTYeyta++MILJF74HJcjznbei9pSNJKPTZJRisjffmacYCBx/IS4uS eizdcaYeMy0Gx2TAE8L+shGyw04VjBVbRIWHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding; b=ITrXwomsqnpaGZqhLmVF1ezuxN/i78mWizcWlNBAIiqR1Fj2OlX5KQ3+2gKHvjytl8 5R/nEUzOqmG736fd6peiRoKe19ysW+DXmsgIg2d+jCyDcz2Oauxs2hHiBdoaYrnzMegD XlvzOQa7b62XFnznLdkIJKOyEPpOEydC1YrKY= Received: by 10.90.38.18 with SMTP id l18mr84372agl.35.1288196999831; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.180.73 with SMTP id bt9ls818828ibb.0.p; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.204.82 with SMTP id fl18mr1114980icb.83.1288196997637; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.204.82 with SMTP id fl18mr1114979icb.83.1288196997609; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org (digitalkingdom.org [173.13.139.234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id b32si6628079ibq.1.2010.10.27.09.29.57; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) client-ip=173.13.139.234; Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PB8su-0005h4-8O for bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:29:56 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [bpfk] CLL errata check: lujvo scoring Message-ID: <20101027162955.GR1105@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com References: <20101026061117.GJ1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063822.GK1105@digitalkingdom.org> <20101026063932.GL1105@digitalkingdom.org> <7.0.1.0.2.20101026134742.01f61b78@cox.net> <20101027144852.GQ8367@nvg.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20101027144852.GQ8367@nvg.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org designates 173.13.139.234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 04:48:52PM +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:03:50AM -0300, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > > The algorithm doesn't take consonant clusters into account, so > > I'm not sure how often it gives a choice that people find > > preferable. It prefers "kixsku" to "ki'asku" for example, *UGH*. > It might be fun and instructive for some of the computer guys to > come up with a machine learning algorithm that optimises the lujvo > scoring algorithm to reflect what Lojbanists actually like. > (Perhaps using published texts as a basis rather than asking them > to choose between different versions of the same lujvo.) I don't think there's enough of the right kind of corpus for that; I think everybody just did what jvocuhadju said. :) I know I did. I never hit a case like kixsku. Regardless, fixing the algorithm (while it sure sounds like a good idea to me) is not relevant to my *current* enterprise. :) -Robin --=20 http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" is "na nei". 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