From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRDdib_lBBoE2jyMZw@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 18:27:09 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4ODK-0000bY-N3; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:27:09 -0700 Received: by wwe15 with SMTP id 15sf382795wwe.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:27:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4h6FbqQDtCGSzaG701+Itdk11P886hZvBLNX5WWW0GE=; b=nA5x1ZCFpmJwBlu2IhOx5N5Vb+nvetUPA126aVOn979+SJmNZoZAE0CLE11AMsEdL3 SC/IzovPc9Y5PalUWat6BnrCDSRf70PbJFVYLs2kOkxZekPXQp0rMdP8ue1x73TRJhty rCKUmZmNpZRShZajxxUH/+Ip+doKplNGY6fbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SasjpPBCc5QXraLRC/la21At1mZJnwu13maQ5ggGdRXhQoE6oyxxMSgtdRuXGnEBYv yNRUOBBYmuv7J9ZKGIzKLFOv/3zeFk6XgPXz8CLF+WkubJWu7iImPgpZfS0/8zYQcvMn d5rxVpb3CVDkG+FhTiCWQpiBc3J/Xu4GS5WnE= Received: by 10.216.237.9 with SMTP id x9mr388928weq.26.1286587613916; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.227.39.10 with SMTP id d10ls560051wbe.2.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.129.83 with SMTP id n19mr144903wbs.14.1286587613029; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.129.83 with SMTP id n19mr144902wbs.14.1286587612996; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f48.google.com (mail-ww0-f48.google.com [74.125.82.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id a37si1566588wba.7.2010.10.08.18.26.51; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.48; Received: by wwi14 with SMTP id 14so598218wwi.17 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.145.14 with SMTP id b14mr3215663wbv.24.1286587611613; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.145.130 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100903032539.GY5990@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:26:51 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > 2010/10/8 Jorge Llamb=EDas >> >> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : >> > >> > My point is, if something said by a second person is always treated as >> > separate text, how does the mother finish her child's sentence? >> >> How can we be 100% sure that she intends to do it? We can't. I think >> And Rosta did propose a cmavo for indicating "continuation of previous >> speaker's utterance" once. You might find it in the experimental cmavo >> page. >> >> > And since Lojban is supposed to be umambiguous, it has to be one way o= r >> > the >> > other. Either a new speaker is always a new jufra, or only at the next >> > {.i}, >> > which is my preferred reading. (Or listening.) >> >> A new speaker is by default a new text. Anything else is unreasonable, >> since it makes your utterances dependent on things you may not have >> control over. >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes > > .i ganai da'aroi lonu ranji jufra cu pilno zo .i gi na go'i What do you understand by "da'aroi lo nu ranji jufra"? It means something like "all but once during the continuous sentence". Starting an utterance with ".i" is no guarantee that your utterance won't be garbled if it's taken as continuation of what someone else is saying. As a trivial example, if the other speaker ended with "zo", it would just quote your ".i". But there are plenty of other cases that could absorb your ".i" too. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.