From bpfk-list+bncCJ2UzZHuDRC1prDmBBoErvKrrw@googlegroups.com Sat Oct 30 05:44:52 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PCAnh-00063z-TV; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:52 -0700 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34sf2276820wwb.16 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VDjp68zQWKo6A0ECo/dqhS/jbOY85Jq/Gr90RL6p3+c=; b=DMrDRZddt3t8SkqtSN4w6BZlb1MR3Oi0j8PhNWPuFRui8atjcsWYYUx2ENV8Cselm1 5NQPPH47qzNgxTEwyO9MwB8cmOVDvJhp4cET2KKmR6oYJV5vMil/fLzI6iESQzoBYEO7 wdKS1KWtjiI6N2MWfQaAvKJm/LMVcEyA8gb/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fIqLBTfgZ4DuEcr/o1akxpE0iq9Qd9Lp3bsIFgUFpnUNlvkrHY1dIo4Uqa6ATwfXln X8NBeLiFbZkdYhZmPzVgdlzQhWwVOAUIk930EXXkEe8EiFU7H1dQRsP3RqMztTlGV5Qu ArHE/3MHp81noDMdss5y0dGhAHav/Fy7WYTfI= Received: by 10.216.54.206 with SMTP id i56mr33714wec.24.1288442677719; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:37 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.242.202 with SMTP id i52ls1674873wer.0.p; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.150.167 with SMTP id z39mr31695wej.10.1288442676692; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.150.167 with SMTP id z39mr31694wej.10.1288442676677; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id x80si1113395weq.12.2010.10.30.05.44.35; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.53; Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so3980278wwb.10 for ; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.71 with SMTP id z7mr1500972wbt.23.1288442675323; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.32.140 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:44:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20101030050924.GT1105@digitalkingdom.org> References: <20101030050924.GT1105@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:44:35 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] CLL Check: ke'e From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com, bpfk@lojban.org X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > In the following: > > - ------------- > > The components of tanru may be grouped with =93ke=94 both before and afte= r a logical connective: > 
> 12.9) =A0la .teris. cu [ke] ricfu ja pindi [=
ke'e] je ke nakni ja fetsi [ke'e]
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Terry is (rich or poor) and (male or female).
>
> where the first =93ke ... ke'e=94 pair may be omitted altogether by the r= ule of left-grouping, but is optionally permitted (as in bridi > connection). In any case, both instances of =93ke'e=94 may be elided. > > - ------------- > > Versus the book, someone added the "(as in bridi connection)" part ond re= placed > "the last instance" with "both instances". > > Is this correct? No, as it stands it's incorrect, or at least misleading. "ke ... ke'e" cannot be used in afterthought bridi connection. Perhaps they meant "(as with "tu'e ... tu'u" in bridi connection)", or "(as in forethought bridi connection)". The contrast is with afterthought sumti and bridi-tail connections, which do not allow the first term to be grouped with "ke ... ke'e". That's probably a remnant of LALR(1) requirements, and we should consider fixing it. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den.