From bpfk-list+bncCMHEmaCOBhDqm7_lBBoEbGvGJg@googlegroups.com Fri Oct 08 19:05:45 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f61.google.com ([74.125.83.61]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Oog-0002E8-DU; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:45 -0700 Received: by gwb11 with SMTP id 11sf1583184gwb.16 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:x-beenthere:received:received:received :received:received-spf:received:mime-version:received:received :in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1VPUQG1wDSLrkjFsX6t6082EtTEHchJv5hkBNnJE5vM=; b=NyZpSm8v6Gzol/V26abkdqc5BWz5le09Jea+nfEaJXPNvunoJj5raSFw4ft+jfpTkJ YYpLSKbINkTPyr2gns0Q2fV7vr36aFfV03f00Sq7i88vJtgtMGVpn5llJRqNcobIGa/E 7KZE8L/Z6X/nZbLYYajspD9IjIAmS2QcGbHaM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; b=mNFdfdru9cd030xUn1TWEy/vABQzQEKm4y4SiKD1ISE5zWaA9/Fjt61XBRaKWXcSO+ 8v0aAkHgF8/PR/U6YXwpWUXfk5TBM4xrleEOsX55zfWydAwRxru/5hFeK0wuPmWDr2w2 34kNeP9Cz5nOdlHyyyGgSaGeWRpSlzqxPkPj0= Received: by 10.91.199.12 with SMTP id b12mr282460agq.16.1286589930372; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.231.112.41 with SMTP id u41ls732548ibp.1.p; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.71 with SMTP id cf7mr1041817ibb.17.1286589930109; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.183.71 with SMTP id cf7mr1041816ibb.17.1286589930060; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-iw0-f179.google.com (mail-iw0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e4si2573941ibc.0.2010.10.08.19.05.29; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.179; Received: by mail-iw0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 41so392296iwn.38 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.211.135 with SMTP id go7mr357965icb.499.1286589928930; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:05:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.206.68 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Oct 2010 19:05:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20100903032539.GY5990@digitalkingdom.org> Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 20:05:28 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [bpfk] BPFK work From: Jonathan Jones To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.179 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bpfk-list@googlegroups.com; contact bpfk-list+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: bpfk-list@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301d3a4caf7cef0492258ff7 --20cf301d3a4caf7cef0492258ff7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2010/10/8 Jorge Llamb=EDas > On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : > > > > I can't think of any way to say this succintly, so please excuse any > > rambling. What I'm trying to get at is, unless the new speaker begins > with > > {.i}, or by extension {ni'o} and related, the new speaker is to be take= n > as > > continuing the previous speaker's sentence. If, however, the new speake= r > > does begin with {.i} or related, then /regardless/ of what the previous > > speaker said, it is a new sentence. > > That would entail a huge change in the grammar. In fact I'm not sure > it's even doable, you are essentially giving a different grammar to I > and NIhO when they are the first word in a new voice than when they > are not the first word in a new voice. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > It is the only method I can think of that maintain unambiguity while preserving the ability to continue someone else's sentence. So unless someone has a better suggestion, it's either that or it is not possible to continue someone else's sentence, ever. The latter will cause all Lojbanic twins to hate you, btw. zo'o --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu d= o zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= BPFK" group. To post to this group, send email to bpfk-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bpfk-list+unsubscribe@googleg= roups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bpfk-l= ist?hl=3Den. --20cf301d3a4caf7cef0492258ff7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2010/10/8 Jorge Llamb=EDas <= ;jjllambias@gmail.com>
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can't think of any way to say this succintly, so please excuse a= ny
> rambling. What I'm trying to get at is, unless the new speaker beg= ins with
> {.i}, or by extension {ni'o} and related, the new speaker is to be= taken as
> continuing the previous speaker's sentence. If, however, the new s= peaker
> does begin with {.i} or related, then /regardless/ of what the previou= s
> speaker said, it is a new sentence.

That would entail a huge change in the grammar. In fact I'm not s= ure
it's even doable, you are essentially giving a different grammar to I and NIhO when they are the first word in a new voice than when they
are not the first word in a new voice.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

It is the only met= hod I can think of that maintain unambiguity while preserving the ability t= o continue someone else's sentence. So unless someone has a better sugg= estion, it's either that or it is not possible to continue someone else= 's sentence, ever. The latter will cause all Lojbanic twins to hate you= , btw. zo'o

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.a'o.e'e ko cmima le= bende pe lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to= the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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